Sure To Grow with rockwool clones?
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growin4myhead
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I was wondering if anyone knew or has used tried using clones in rockwool with the Sure To Grow inserts. EBB & Gro system.
Im sure it'll work fine. my friend uses the STG cloner blocks and then puts em in hte stg inserts for the ebb and grow....the rockwool should plunk right in no prob.
STG replied to this question from youtube.
Sure to grow transplants
I'm sorry, your comment got accidentally deleted from our page, so I have to respond this way. You can definitely transplant a cutting in another media such as rock wool into sure to grow. They perform fine, however when transplanting a wicking media (rock wool) into a non wicking media such as sure to grow, you will most likely get algae growth on top of our blocks or inserts, the same as if you were using just rock wool.
Sure to grow transplants
I'm sorry, your comment got accidentally deleted from our page, so I have to respond this way. You can definitely transplant a cutting in another media such as rock wool into sure to grow. They perform fine, however when transplanting a wicking media (rock wool) into a non wicking media such as sure to grow, you will most likely get algae growth on top of our blocks or inserts, the same as if you were using just rock wool.
What happened? Why was it the worst mistake? Were you using the Sure To Grow inserts?
L.A.RAIDER
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I use sure to gro stg inserts and stg loose fill around my 4x4 rockwool cubes.
I like Everything about this roduct. its light weight easy to discard when done.
the roots and plants seem to love it.
just make sure to put an air stone in your resivoir and a pump just pushing around and mixxing the nutes and the water.
when using the inserts I have to cut the hole for the clone bigger to fit the 4x4 rockwool cubes I then have to add a lil loose fill below the insert becouse it looses a lil of its rigidity when cutting it and the top of the insert tendes tdroop down below the water fill line and you will get moss, alge etc starting to grow from the lights hitting the wet insert. or just use the loose fill around the 4x4 insert it works well to. You will need about 4 bags of loose fill for 12 gallon buckets with the 4x4 rockeool cubes in the middle.
Hope this helps
plants suffered miserably in the loose fill. the stg stayed wet for days. rockwool is far superior to this crap. if you decide to try it dont go all out and just do a few plants.
Been tyring to figure out the best way use STG in various forms to grow from seed and from clones. It took a few tries with both types of grow and think I have gotten used to it's characterictics. I use Deep Water Culture, 3.5 " net pots, air stones and a more or less standard hydroponic nutrient mix.
Algae is a problem if the entire STG block or insert is continuously wet. If the top 25% is allowed to be dry, it does not seem to develop the green crud, or other wet stem problems.
Using the 3.5 inch Arroyo inserts to start seeds, I find that adding small bits of the loose fill to gently surround and support the seedling stem as it elongates allows the lower part of the medium to be moist as is desired, and the top part of the medium to be dry. Years ago when I started seeds in soil, I would add loose soil to the seed pot in the same manner.
Clone rooting in STG works great, if, again, the top 25% is allowed to remain dry, and the clone tip/ rooting area is moist. Cutting half way through the insert to allow the clone stem to be layed into the cleft or slit prevents cloning gel or powder from being displaced.
I like the STG, but I am not sure it is superior to other mediums. They all work well once you know how each behaves. Ease of use, light weight, dust free and ph neutrality make this stuff my choice for DWC.
j to the c
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thats a good point, when I started in RW starter it took me a couple times to figure it out
You can't always blame the medium for being too wet guys. Sometimes you just need to cut back a bit on your watering. Specific products may not work as good as others in specific methods. Finding the sweet spot is where success lies.
Sure-to-Grow is supposed to dry out faster than rockwool and be more aerated. Many people, including myself, sometimes over water the rockwool and get root rot. The STG inerts should dry out faster. I was told instead of watering every 3 days with rock wool, STG will require watering within 1-2 days.
As I said before, it all depends on your method, but STG sitting in water may not be the best idea. Daily waterings with STG is recommended. I was told by 5+ people that grow legally that it is not a bad product.
I believe that there may be a misconception about rockwool and STG. STG has a lot less mass and a lot more air space meaning the amount of water required to saturate a STG inert compared to a rockwool cube is smaller.
WATER LESS!
Check out their website http://www.suretogrowmedium.com/ for comparisons to other mediums.
Sure-to-Grow is supposed to dry out faster than rockwool and be more aerated. Many people, including myself, sometimes over water the rockwool and get root rot. The STG inerts should dry out faster. I was told instead of watering every 3 days with rock wool, STG will require watering within 1-2 days.
As I said before, it all depends on your method, but STG sitting in water may not be the best idea. Daily waterings with STG is recommended. I was told by 5+ people that grow legally that it is not a bad product.
I believe that there may be a misconception about rockwool and STG. STG has a lot less mass and a lot more air space meaning the amount of water required to saturate a STG inert compared to a rockwool cube is smaller.
WATER LESS!
Check out their website http://www.suretogrowmedium.com/ for comparisons to other mediums.
