Superdelegates in the Democratic Party (Primary) should be eliminated

Superdelegates in the Democratic Party (Primary) should be eliminated

  • I agree. I oppose Superdelagates

  • I disagree. I support Superdelegates


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Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Agree or disagree? Why?

Progressives will agree because Superdelegates are by definition undemocratic

Establishment Democrats will unanimously disagree because Superdelegates help establishment candidates win


Watch establishment Democrats avoid answering the poll like the plague because they don't want to admit to it in public.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

hillary got more votes in 2008 and lost because of superdelegates and she never cried about them like you do, even though bernie could have gotten every single superdelegate and still lost.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

hillary got more votes in 2008 and lost because of superdelegates and she never cried about them like you do, even though bernie could have gotten every single superdelegate and still lost.
Why do you support the undemocratic process of allowing superdelegates to choose the democratic candidate instead of the voters?

Also, why don't you cast your vote against?
 

Singlemalt

Well-Known Member
Agree or disagree? Why?

Progressives will agree because Superdelegates are by definition undemocratic

Establishment Democrats will unanimously disagree because Superdelegates help establishment candidates win


Watch establishment Democrats avoid answering the poll like the plague because they don't want to admit to it in public.
Why do you care what the Democrats do? You and your crew have spoken nothing but disdain for the Democratic Party for months. Further you all have spoken of your own party, so fuckin do it. Unless of course, which we all know is true, you'd rather co-opt the infrastructure of a successful established party than create one from inception; because entitlement.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Why do you care what the Democrats do? You and your crew have spoken nothing but disdain for the Democratic Party for months. Further you all have spoken of your own party, so fuckin do it. Unless of course, which we all know is true, you'd rather co-opt the infrastructure of a successful established party than create one from inception; because entitlement.
Because "entitlement"? Could you expand on that?

Our idea, definitely not originated by me, I'm just a supporter of, is to take over the Democratic party by primarying corporate Democrats. Lee Carter just beat an establishment Republican in deep red Virginia by using this method, without any help from the Democratic establishment.

Why do I care what the Democrats do? I care because our political system is by design 2 party. I'm not a Republican, I'm not really a Democrat, but I side with Democrats more than I do with Republicans, and I think the Democratic party should represent working class people as well as their interests above corporate interests. There are inherent systemic disabilities with creating a new party as opposed to hijacking an existing one. It is strategically smarter to take over one of the existing two parties than to try to create your own in a two party system. Sorry that upsets you, that's the reality of the political situation in America at the moment. When we take over, that won't be the case.
 

Singlemalt

Well-Known Member
Because "entitlement"? Could you expand on that?

Our idea, definitely not originated by me, I'm just a supporter of, is to take over the Democratic party by primarying corporate Democrats. Lee Carter just beat an establishment Republican in deep red Virginia by using this method, without any help from the Democratic establishment.

Why do I care what the Democrats do? I care because our political system is by design 2 party. I'm not a Republican, I'm not really a Democrat, but I side with Democrats more than I do with Republicans, and I think the Democratic party should represent working class people as well as their interests above corporate interests. There are inherent systemic disabilities with creating a new party as opposed to hijacking an existing one. It is strategically smarter to take over one of the existing two parties than to try to create your own in a two party system. Sorry that upsets you, that's the reality of the political situation in America at the moment. When we take over, that won't be the case.
Doesn't upset me as I expect it from you youngsters who don't have the fortitude to work hard and create something new and fresh.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Politics is a dirty game.
Then why did you deny it when we were telling you the exact same thing? That Clinton was cheating? Why did you choose to ignore it and deny it instead of just claiming politics was a "dirty game"?

You didn't do it then because you didn't anticipate what came out to come out. So you can shove your false justifications straight up your ass.

"Politics is a dirty game, only when you get found out. People like you will deny the dirty tricks up until you get caught using them. You cheat until you get caught cheating. Then you deny cheating until we catch you with something you can't deny. Then, finally, when you finally accept you can't lie anymore and you've been completely exposed as the liar that you are, you tell the truth in the hopes of some redemption..
 

tangerinegreen555

Well-Known Member
Then why did you deny it when we were telling you the exact same thing? That Clinton was cheating? Why did you choose to ignore it and deny it instead of just claiming politics was a "dirty game"?

You didn't do it then because you didn't anticipate what came out to come out. So you can shove your false justifications straight up your ass.

"Politics is a dirty game, only when you get found out. People like you will deny the dirty tricks up until you get caught using them. You cheat until you get caught cheating. Then you deny cheating until we catch you with something you can't deny. Then, finally, when you finally accept you can't lie anymore and you've been completely exposed as the liar that you are, you tell the truth in the hopes of some redemption..
Politics is a dirty game. ALL the fucking time. Not when you say it is.

'When they go low, we go high' works great in speeches. In reality, you better be willing to get down and dirty to have a chance.

Maybe we weren't dirty enough last time.

We'll try to improve, too much is at stake.

Maybe you don't care about the environment, the poor, unions, rich fuckers getting away with murder, minorities and (formerly) protected classes as much as you claim.

And what the flying fuck were you talking about that you're not a Democrat or Republican?

Because that only leaves disenfranchised.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Agree or disagree? Why?

Progressives will agree because Superdelegates are by definition undemocratic

Establishment Democrats will unanimously disagree because Superdelegates help establishment candidates win


Watch establishment Democrats avoid answering the poll like the plague because they don't want to admit to it in public.
Superdelegates are elected lawmakers from the Democratic party.

Sanders campaign team members were part of the group that changed rules for superdelegates

"I want people to understand that this commission is different from others that we’ve had in the past. It's something that has real teeth in it because it prescribes the outcome, for the most part, that we are going to see a real change in the superdelegates, basically reducing them by two-thirds,” said Michaeleen Crowell, Sanders's chief of staff.

Delegates from both the Sanders and Clinton camps spoke out in favor of the deal before the vote. No one spoke in opposition.

Jeez, man. more than a year has gone by and you not only don't know what has been done but are rehashing an election where superdelegates didn't matter.

A small number of elected lawmakers are not bound by the votes of their states. The rest are. This is much more democratic than the electoral college. Go start a therad about that.
 
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