Strange findings while germinating seed...

podunk421 · Jun 22, 2009

So I decided a few nights back to try out something new and see how it would work on a new bean. I used a rock wool root plug and chose to place it in a shot glass on the windowsill. I moistened the seed thoroughly and made sure the bottom of the shot glass had 1/4" of standing water. Instead of tap or distilled water I used a combination of half 3% Hydrogen Peroxide and half Distilled water. I did this just to test boundaries of oxygen absorption by roots and how much the plant could tolerate. I was shocked the next day, less than 24 hours after putting it in the window and with only 12 hours of light total up to that point it had grown 1 1/2" tall and had both full seed leaves and new true leaves. I show my breeding buddy and he notices when he comes over only 8 hours later that the leaves had doubled in size. It is now 72 hours old and the growth has slowed to a normal rate after the first 48 hours. The second day it had doubled the leaf size again and was shooting up a new stem and set of leaves. I'm curious as to what could have caused the sudden growth the first 2 days yet while repeated in same dilution and quantity has yet to occur again. Is it possible for the plant to build a tolerance to the excess absorption of oxygen or is it that it can only grow so much. I have noticed around 12 taproots poking from the cube and intend on transplanting it to further test my peroxide formula. I will post pics as soon as I can, any advice is appreciated.

Steadmanclan · Jun 23, 2009

sounds cool... more oxygen at first stimulating growth.
the only negative side to the addition h2o2 is that, if added in later stages of growth, it will kill all the beneficial bacteria and fungus that will form symbiotic relationships with your root system later on in the life of your plant. as a result limiting nutrient uptake and stunting production potential.
it will also destroy root rot... ...if that ever became a problem

Hayduke · Jun 23, 2009

podunk421 said:
So I decided a few nights back to try out something new and see how it would work on a new bean. I used a rock wool root plug and chose to place it in a shot glass on the windowsill. I moistened the seed thoroughly and made sure the bottom of the shot glass had 1/4" of standing water. Instead of tap or distilled water I used a combination of half 3% Hydrogen Peroxide and half Distilled water. I did this just to test boundaries of oxygen absorption by roots and how much the plant could tolerate. I was shocked the next day, less than 24 hours after putting it in the window and with only 12 hours of light total up to that point it had grown 1 1/2" tall and had both full seed leaves and new true leaves. I show my breeding buddy and he notices when he comes over only 8 hours later that the leaves had doubled in size. It is now 72 hours old and the growth has slowed to a normal rate after the first 48 hours. The second day it had doubled the leaf size again and was shooting up a new stem and set of leaves. I'm curious as to what could have caused the sudden growth the first 2 days yet while repeated in same dilution and quantity has yet to occur again. Is it possible for the plant to build a tolerance to the excess absorption of oxygen or is it that it can only grow so much. I have noticed around 12 taproots poking from the cube and intend on transplanting it to further test my peroxide formula. I will post pics as soon as I can, any advice is appreciated.

Interesting...try another seed and see if it is as fast.

:leaf:

podunk421 · Jun 23, 2009

sounds like a plan, i intended on popping a few more beans to see an overall control based on strain as well as environment and see if this could be a beneficial factor to jump start root growth. I intend on keeping a few of these for a few weeks just to note progress on the idea. I will keep y'all updated on the results.

As of today I have planted 4 more seeds to test and the initial plant is now at 96 hours old and has a 3" inch stem, sprout leaves are fulled out, 1 set of true leaves and an additional set coming in visibly as of now.

Hayduke · Jun 23, 2009

Sounds like you understand a little science! Thanks...we will be watching!

:leaf:

GreatwhiteNorth · Jun 23, 2009

Did you germ first prior to putting it in the rockwool?
I'm def interested & will drop by to see how this turns out.
Peace

BIGBUDDZ · Jun 23, 2009

You might just have found a fast way to grow weed

Dying to find out how they get on in later stages.
Are you going to grow them to the fullest?

podunk421 · Jun 24, 2009

Well heres the update on them, of the 5 I sprouted there was only one heavy shooter and the other 3 didn't germinate. The first ones growth has slowed considerably to almost a standstill. I am still going with the full strength formula and have 2 which have popped and given outstanding initial growth. Granted this is just a home test to toy around with the idea of using heavy h202 to try to jump start growth but I am shooting for a failure I believe. While the seeds did show excellent initial growth, the process seems like it cannot be held on for more than a few days, almost like the plant either believes it has hit max cappacity or has grown accustomed to the formula and slowed growth as well.

As of right now my findings are that the idea is there, the groundwork is there and it seems like a viable method if tweaked with a bit but I don't see it as a miracle to the growing community. I will continue with these 2 heavy growers of the 5 batch and see how much I can get away with and try and find a way to trick these seeds into maximizing their growth potential like it did those first 24 hours.

Anybody with ideas or past reference with this idea let me know, im going to continue with a small side project with this idea just to try it out a bit but this is the beginning of my dabble into indoor growing so im all ears for any ideas you may have regarding this, especially experienced growers...

podunk421 · Jul 23, 2009

Time for an update.

As of now I am using sub grade eco-grow t-8's 3 of em at 16w a piece

Foxfarm ocean forest, perilite and potting soil at 1:1:0.5

I have 4 currently growing and the growth above is about a week further along looking for the hydrogen plant, has about 3 more nodes than the others under same conditions without hydrogen.

Heres the fun part,

Under growth was amazing. The root structure of the hydrogen plant was 3 if not 4 times as much as the others. I have kept it on a heavy hydrogen diet, around 10 ml a day of 3% hydrogen along with the same watering schedule and fertilizers used with the rest.

I am now convinced the hydrogen played a big part since it is the only thing different between the plants. I will have pictures up as soon as I get a camera of some sort to show the difference

In my opinion the H2O2 was a great booster for root growth and also helped expedite top growth, though not as much a difference as root growth where the differences are plentiful...

Hayduke · Jul 23, 2009

cool, lets see the pics!

:leaf:

podunk421 · Jul 23, 2009

If all goes well I should have them up by this weekend, Damn being poor, but hey at least I can build some anticipation I guess...

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