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sunsetdaydreamer

sunsetdaydreamer

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silverhazefiend said:
When I get a new cut I have a cheap isolation method and I prefer fresh cuts as opposed to rooted ones .. whatever the cut is rooted in can carry bugs so I prefer to re root or just a fresh cut

gallon zip lock bags
Ya fav organic insect killer /prevention

I take the bag and spray it with my preventative mix not too much stick the cuts in and put them in a small box with light .. the cuts stay alive as long as light and humidity is in the bag .. after about 3-5 days I stick the cuts there new root plugs and back into new bags with a light veg spray feed mix until I see roots ..open the bag periodically to mix in some fresh air just like u would with clones and a dome

The reason I prefer the bag to a dome is the bugs like to hide on the underside of the leaves and it’s hard to get the stem and underside unless u dip it or drench them .. with the plats pressed flat against the bag it’s really no where hide and sitting in the solution for days kills eggs etc ..it’s super easy to control humidity in a gallon bag as opposed to a dome also u get light from all angles top to bottom on both sides a dome gives bugs places to hide
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What organic treatment would you use for mites
 
silverhazefiend

silverhazefiend

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sunsetdaydreamer said:
What organic treatment would you use for mites
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I use a diluted bottle solution

Is there a fully organic treatment for mites ? I would use one listed as organic .. but the fully organic way would prolly be to make a mix using neem oil as a base but idk how effective it would be

There’s gonna be effective with small downsides like maybe having trace chemicals u might not like but in the bigger scheme they will get your plant to where they need to be with no I’ll effect in the long run .. if u have a issue with that then just kill the plant and start over but if it’s a rare or expensive clone some people might wanna try to keep it
 
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Auntie Janes Nursery

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I know this goes against most of the better judgment of a lot of people but I personally don't do any treatments when I bring in or send out clones. Even when I take clones. I don't like to do any preventative on cuts rooting or rooted. I know it sounds like bad protocols but preventative or even corrective treatments can sometimes mask symptoms through a quarantine. Then two to three weeks later when you bring something in to your main garden it pops back up. Same goes for when we ship them out. If the clones are dirty, I want the person to know then and there and to reach out so we can correct our garden and theirs.

If possible the best bet is to quarantine off somewhere outside of the main garden.
 
Bodyne

Bodyne

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silverhazefiend said:
I use a diluted bottle solution

Is there a fully organic treatment for mites ? I would use one listed as organic .. but the fully organic way would prolly be to make a mix using neem oil as a base but idk how effective it would be

There’s gonna be effective with small downsides like maybe having trace chemicals u might not like but in the bigger scheme they will get your plant to where they need to be with no I’ll effect in the long run .. if u have a issue with that then just kill the plant and start over but if it’s a rare or expensive clone some people might wanna try to keep it
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Sucrose Octanoate Esters aka organishield. Beekeepers use it to kill bee mites.
 
sunsetdaydreamer

sunsetdaydreamer

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Auntie Janes Nursery said:
I know this goes against most of the better judgment of a lot of people but I personally don't do any treatments when I bring in or send out clones. Even when I take clones. I don't like to do any preventative on cuts rooting or rooted. I know it sounds like bad protocols but preventative or even corrective treatments can sometimes mask symptoms through a quarantine. Then two to three weeks later when you bring something in to your main garden it pops back up. Same goes for when we ship them out. If the clones are dirty, I want the person to know then and there and to reach out so we can correct our garden and theirs.

If possible the best bet is to quarantine off somewhere outside of the main garden.
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I dunk fresh incoming clones in different mixtures for mites, pm etc (and quarantine) . I do kind of agree with what you are saying. But on the the other hand I think quarantine should be about 6 months min anyway from my own experience. Some things take months to show up so if you're doing a three week quarantine, that's probably fine for insects or mites but fusarium or pm or hplvd or whatever could take much longer to be symptomatic.
 
cantbuymeloveuh

cantbuymeloveuh

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Auntie Janes Nursery said:
I know this goes against most of the better judgment of a lot of people but I personally don't do any treatments when I bring in or send out clones. Even when I take clones. I don't like to do any preventative on cuts rooting or rooted. I know it sounds like bad protocols but preventative or even corrective treatments can sometimes mask symptoms through a quarantine. Then two to three weeks later when you bring something in to your main garden it pops back up. Same goes for when we ship them out. If the clones are dirty, I want the person to know then and there and to reach out so we can correct our garden and theirs.

If possible the best bet is to quarantine off somewhere outside of the main garden.
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Cool, so your theory is, let her be and if she has any issues she will either die or show itself during the quarantine. This is in contrast to people who think you should scrub and clean them and then pump em full of juice that will only help
them limp along undetected
 
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Auntie Janes Nursery

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sunsetdaydreamer said:
I dunk fresh incoming clones in different mixtures for mites, pm etc (and quarantine) . I do kind of agree with what you are saying. But on the the other hand I think quarantine should be about 6 months min anyway from my own experience. Some things take months to show up so if you're doing a three week quarantine, that's probably fine for insects or mites but fusarium or pm or hplvd or whatever could take much longer to be symptomatic.
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Hplvd and fusarium have nothing to do with treating clones. Those are actual tests. Also Pm will pretty much show up if humidity is correct in veg. 2 weeks in quarantine is fine for all of those things you would dunk to prevent.
 
sunsetdaydreamer

sunsetdaydreamer

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Auntie Janes Nursery said:
Hplvd and fusarium have nothing to do with treating clones. Those are actual tests. Also Pm will pretty much show up if humidity is correct in veg. 2 weeks in quarantine is fine for all of those things you would dunk to prevent.
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I didn't say that... I said Hpvld and fusarium will take longer than your quarantine period.

pm can be incubated for 4 weeks no symptoms. Mites can do undetected for however long.

Tbh ipm is down to the individuals choice so if you wanna not treat new clones, then 3 weeks later add them to the rest that's your choice.
 
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Bodyne

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Auntie Janes Nursery said:
Yes, that is called a quarantine. Your whole 6 month theory is called trying to be the last word with nonsense. It seems you try to always have the last word. Like an insecurity thing.
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Spotlight syndrome. Had his own thread but nobody went there, so he’s gonna keep shitting here. I’d think folks might be more amused/alarmed/pleased at what pb stated on IG when asked if hplvd eradicated from the garden and plan to move forward. Mentioned tiki cuts and tiki madman commented his approval so maybe they know something?
 
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Auntie Janes Nursery

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Bodyne said:
Spotlight syndrome. Had his own thread but nobody went there, so he’s gonna keep shitting here. I’d think folks might be more amused/alarmed/pleased at what pb stated on IG when asked if hplvd eradicated from the garden and plan to move forward. Mentioned tiki cuts and tiki madman commented his approval so maybe they know something?
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Sounds about right.
What did Pinkbox say?? I don't follow his IG
 
mudballs

mudballs

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Bodyne said:
Spotlight syndrome. Had his own thread but nobody went there, so he’s gonna keep shitting here. I’d think folks might be more amused/alarmed/pleased at what pb stated on IG when asked if hplvd eradicated from the garden and plan to move forward. Mentioned tiki cuts and tiki madman commented his approval so maybe they know something?
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Im partly to blame i think when i suggested the hplvd sticky idea...i take blame, hopefully he cools his jets here soon, sry i just dont like a population maintaining a pathogen in silence
 
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Auntie Janes Nursery

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mudballs said:
Im partly to blame i think when i suggested the hplvd sticky idea...i take blame, hopefully he cools his jets here soon, sry i just dont like a population maintaining a pathogen in silence
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It definitely should have a thread now that people know what the cause is. For almost a decade it was under threads called "dudding". Now there is actual research to back it up. Was a great idea.
 
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Auntie Janes Nursery

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Bodyne said:
........never confirmed to have it. But all future mothers and genetics in the garden will be tested. Also getting a tissue culture lab involved to meristem and scrub genetics that never leave the menu
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That meristem tissue culture scrubbing can cost a pretty penny. Upwards of 3-4k a culture. It's good though that he is going to be using the resources to test out his garden. At this point they are easily available. It is what even the underground of the industry is going to have to do to eradicate it out of circulation.
 
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