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SNiPerXP

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Hey guys, my gf is moving into her own apartment soon, so we'll be starting our first official grow as soon as June.

We'll be doing a closet grow, using an almost identical set up to the one in the book, Big Buds for Less. It's basically just 6 42 watt CFL's over each plant.

Right now is where we need all of you help. We need some suggestions on what strain(s) to grow. Here's basically a checklist I have for myself. At most we want to grow 3 strains.
We're trying to grow to meet these needs:

We would like one strain that's a heavy yielder. This will probably be for when friends come over and for dealing. Something more Indica, but with giggles.

We would like one strain purely for wake 'n bake and for psychedelic purposes. For this I was thinking maybe Kali Mist or Belladonna. I'm really just looking for something electrifying and again, psychedelic.

The third strain we'd probably want to be something for looks/appeal. Something really Purple looking and tasting.

I know some of you guys probably don't like it when people come on the site just wanting to find the "perfect" strain, but I just wanted some recommendations based on our wants.
 
Strain 1: High yielding great bud

Chronic - Serious Seeds

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/serious-seeds-chronic-3209-p.asp

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Strain 2: Up and Trippy

Kali Mist will be a great wake and bake energetic no ceiling high, but it is clear headed not psychedelic. Jack Herer, Sour Diesel, Super Silver Haze, etc ... I personally have Kali Mist and Red Diesel

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/barneys-farm-red-diesel-back-in-stock-2993-p.asp
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/serious-seeds-kali-mist-3210-p.asp

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Strain 3: Blue or purple

If you want something blue go to DJ Short ... True Blueberry, Blueberry, Grape Kush, Blue Moonshine, Blue Sattilite ... not sure where you should buy from, Dutch Passion carries his Blueberry. Check the Seed Bank review section on legends, I've never used them.

http://www.legendsseeds.com/

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For visuals California Orange would be Cool too ... if it comes out like the pictures Ice would be trippy ...

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/dutch-passion-california-orange-female-seeds-2921-p.asp
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/nirvana-seeds-ice-2725-p.asp

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And never forget AK47, it's always nice to have something that will rocket you to the moon with one hit. Very smelly for an apartment grow.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/serious-seeds-ak-47-3207-p.asp

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Finally (for seeds) consider auto flowering for your first grow:

1. Easier, less chance of ruining your grow, more chance of getting bud.
2. Will stay short. For a closet grow this is important.
3. Don't need TOTAL dark like 12/12s. Closet grow.
4. You can get some neat strains with good potency and yield - AK, Diesel, Kush, White Russian, Blue Ryder.
5. Quick. If it's important to get quick bud with your first grow Lowlife AK47 will harvest 56 days from seed.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/automatic-flowering-dwarfs-128-c.asp

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For a small closet grow you may want to look at buying a few single seeds and saving some cash. Attitude and Pick n Mix have them. Invest the rest of the money in a carbon air filter and fan. Remember the previous sentence when your buds start to come out. ;)

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/pick-n-mix-seeds-127-c.asp
http://www.pickandmixseeds.co.uk/

http://www.4hydroponics.com/grow_room/odorSok.asp

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You want 3 strains, with 6 x 42W CFLs for each, for 756 watts total.

You could get a small 250W HID, or even a 150W, that will put out more light, less heat and cost less to run. 18 light sockets and reflectors and 18 CFLs vs 1 x 250W ballast and bulb, and reflector. The HID may even be cheaper to set up, and you'll get better bud.

http://www.accessdiscounts.com/sku-66010.html

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bongsmilie
 
Hobbes said:
Strain 1: High yielding great bud

Chronic - Serious Seeds

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/serious-seeds-chronic-3209-p.asp

,

Strain 2: Up and Trippy

Kali Mist will be a great wake and bake energetic no ceiling high, but it is clear headed not psychedelic. Jack Herer, Sour Diesel, Super Silver Haze, etc ... I personally have Kali Mist and Red Diesel

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/barneys-farm-red-diesel-back-in-stock-2993-p.asp
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/serious-seeds-kali-mist-3210-p.asp

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Strain 3: Blue or purple

If you want something blue go to DJ Short ... True Blueberry, Blueberry, Grape Kush, Blue Moonshine, Blue Sattilite ... not sure where you should buy from, Dutch Passion carries his Blueberry. Check the Seed Bank review section on legends, I've never used them.

http://www.legendsseeds.com/

.

For visuals California Orange would be Cool too ... if it comes out like the pictures Ice would be trippy ...

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/dutch-passion-california-orange-female-seeds-2921-p.asp
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/nirvana-seeds-ice-2725-p.asp

.

And never forget AK47, it's always nice to have something that will rocket you to the moon with one hit. Very smelly for an apartment grow.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/serious-seeds-ak-47-3207-p.asp

.

Finally (for seeds) consider auto flowering for your first grow:

1. Easier, less chance of ruining your grow, more chance of getting bud.
2. Will stay short. For a closet grow this is important.
3. Don't need TOTAL dark like 12/12s. Closet grow.
4. You can get some neat strains with good potency and yield - AK, Diesel, Kush, White Russian, Blue Ryder.
5. Quick. If it's important to get quick bud with your first grow Lowlife AK47 will harvest 56 days from seed.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/automatic-flowering-dwarfs-128-c.asp

.

For a small closet grow you may want to look at buying a few single seeds and saving some cash. Attitude and Pick n Mix have them. Invest the rest of the money in a carbon air filter and fan. Remember the previous sentence when your buds start to come out. ;)

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/pick-n-mix-seeds-127-c.asp
http://www.pickandmixseeds.co.uk/

http://www.4hydroponics.com/grow_room/odorSok.asp

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You want 3 strains, with 6 x 42W CFLs for each, for 756 watts total.

You could get a small 250W HID, or even a 150W, that will put out more light, less heat and cost less to run. 18 light sockets and reflectors and 18 CFLs vs 1 x 250W ballast and bulb, and reflector. The HID may even be cheaper to set up, and you'll get better bud.

http://www.accessdiscounts.com/sku-66010.html

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bongsmilie
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Thanks so much for your help! I must say this is a lot of good information to come home to. Although I have to ask, won't the HID cause heating issues?

Also, I usually like to stay high just about all day and I've been doing this for quite some time until recently my tolerance has finally caught up to me and now I'm taking a break. I haven't smoked at all today and would like to know how many days I should take off. I have serious back pain throughout the day because of severe scoliosis and have some OCD issues that weed seems to help with. So, I need to take as little a break as necessary. Anyways, I've only been smoking heavily for almost a year, but I'm usually a light weight which is why I was surprised to find my tolerance build so much.
 
"won't the HID cause heating issues?"

Yes, but less than CFLs of the same wattage. With the CFL the heat is just spread along the length of the tube while the HID is concentrated. Think about it this way, basically the equation is "ENERGY IN = LIGHT + HEAT". High Intensity Discharge lights put out more lumans (PAR watts) than CFLs of the same wattage, therefore there is less heat given off - in total - with the same wattage of HID than with CFLs. So if 250W of CFLs puts out more heat than 250W HID imagine how much more heat 756W of CFL will put out. Plus for HIDs a lot of the heat is in the ballast, which you can keep out of the closet.

"Also, I usually like to stay high just about all day and I've been doing this for quite some time until recently my tolerance has finally caught up to me and now I'm taking a break. I haven't smoked at all today and would like to know how many days I should take off. I have serious back pain throughout the day because of severe scoliosis and have some OCD issues that weed seems to help with. So, I need to take as little a break as necessary. Anyways, I've only been smoking heavily for almost a year, but I'm usually a light weight which is why I was surprised to find my tolerance build so much."

I believe its CBD (CBN?) that largely causes tolerance build up, I've wondered if drinking a commercial cleansing drink would clean out our systems.

I've read a breeders description of a Cheese and they said that they had a bunch of their workers smoke that strain only for 3 years and there was no tolerance build up and just as high on the last day as the first. I imagine Kali Mist to be a lot like this.

Some strains, like Dr Greenthumb's Bubba Kush, advertise very little tolerance build up.

http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis_seeds_GreenthumbSeedsEntrance.htm

Other than that I'm of no help to you on this topic, try the medical forum if you don't get an answer here. Eating or tinctures instead of smoking for awhile might help.

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bongsmilie
 
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8 December 2008

3 Proven Steps for Lowering Your Tolerance to Marijuana





Tolerance: the power of enduring or resisting the action of a drug.

This phenomenon occurs with the use of most drugs, and can lead to nasty dependencies if you're using hard drugs like opiates. Marijuana tolerance is much more mild, manifesting itself in the need for higher doses of Cannabis to obtain the effect of the initial dose. However, this in itself is an issue worth addressing because there are things you can do to lower your tolerance.

If your tolerance is lower, it takes a lesser dose to get you high. If you don't need as much bud to get high, you save money.

So this is sort of a financial thing, which is quite relevant since the global economy is in the shitter.

Take a break
If you've build up a tolerance, it will naturally decrease over time. The simplest way to lower your tolerance is to take a break for a few days, weeks, or even months.

Hydrate yourself
While on a break, flush your system with water to speed up the lowering of your tolerance. Don't give yourself water poisoning, but do drink a healthy amount of H2O. This is all around good advice anyway.

Exercise!
THC is stored in fat cells, and as you burn fat it is released into the bloodstream. Get that last bit of THC out of your system by exercising, focusing on cardiovascular, fat burning workouts.

Detox kits, and other commercial products like niacin may help, but these three steps are tried and true ways to effectively lower your tolerance. Your wallet will thank you, and you will enjoy getting higher from smaller doses of Cannabis!"

http://candyskunk.blogspot.com/2008/12/3-proven-steps-for-lowering-your.html

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Probably the quickest solution that will let you keep getting high is to get a vaporizer - you'll get twice as high with half the bud. And if you keep the temperature low you're getting mostly honey oil, I read somewhere a while back that tolerance was built up slower with vaporizers, honey oil, bubble hash because .... something about burning the cannaboids, can't remember.

I have two Volcanos, an old Classic and a Digital I bought before Christmas for a family member - clean clear high. Whenever friends come over they get blown away sharing a bag. Volcano for bag, Silver Surfer for direct draw, Extreme for a bit of both. I've looked at them all and to me the Volcano is the one to get if budget allows.

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bongsmilie
 
Haha, I think I'll need a little time to get the money to just spend on a volcano. I do plan on it though, it 's just I love bongs/bubblers... I think it's the bubbling water that turns me on lulz.... sorry I'm a little blazed at this moment ;)
 
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