STORE BOUGHT SYSTEM Reviews

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
If you have bought and used a new pre-made Hydroponic System of any kind other than DIY Home-Made, please respond to this thread with what you thought about it, AFTER you used it and the results.
I've been asked to help submit REVIEWS of STORE BOUGHT OR INTERNET BOUGHT Pre-made Systems, so we can compare and post comparisons in the GROWFAQ.
After you post an opinion, you might be asked to write a simple REVIEW and Description of how good or poorly it worked. This is to help Newbies and prevent peole from making costly mistakes!
Peace!
 

JonnyBlunt88

Well-Known Member
I would be glad to give you a review of my supercloset. I have left my opinion on various threads, but here it is all in one.

The most important part, the price. My basic setup would have costed $2195 before shipping with the 400hps. I upgraded to 600hps and payed $2350 before shipping, and $2700 after. The prices for all the cabs have gone up $200 each, so if you dont have the money stop reading now.

When I bought the cab, it was the only stealthy one I could find at the time. This was my main focus on getting a system. It has turned out to be less stealthy than I thought. All of the controls are on the back, which is not advertised on the site(pics of the back in my journal) and there are much parts to consider.

If you plan on closing the doors with the hps light on, dont upgrade to 600. I have found it impossible to close the doors during the photoperiod reaching temps over 90F. This could be expected in any system. The doors can be shut while using only the bottom veg. chamber though. The last factor is the exhaust fan. Its noticably loud, but not to bad.

Other than that, it came with everything I needed. The bottom veg. chamber is flawless with the dual flueros and the auroponic type setup.
The ebb n flow upstairs is solid. Im sure I have left much out but this should do for now.

Hydroponic cabinets and hydroponic systems from Supercloset:joint:
 

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HydroHog

Active Member
This is a great Idea for a thread as I am considering purchasing options for such a system, I hear the Bloombox is the king of them all.

A question for JonnyBlunt if I may.....

What kind of yields do you get with that box of yours, if you don't mind me asking how many plants will it hold and what is the yield average per plant and in what time frame.

I think yours is beautiful and looks like it may pay for itself in one harvest, I've heard the bloombox cost about 3300 but pays for itself in one harvest.

HOG:blsmoke:


BC Northern Lights
 

JonnyBlunt88

Well-Known Member
I have not yeilded yet, my last grow turned out pretty bad. I figured it out though, so Ill let you know when my girls are done. Did the bloombox go up, that sounds steap.:joint:
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
wow John over 2 grand for that thing what a rip off lol its like thos egrow tents for a grand.You can do better yourself for under a third that price hell a BC bloom box is same price and better
 

RasJay727

Active Member
I bought the Economy Grow Box from Homegrown-Hydroponics, they have specials about every other month. I got my on sale for about $795, after getting the batwing reflector and shipping and tax the total price was about $1100. I can honestly say the cab will pay for itself in one harvest. This is what it came with:
400 watt hps in a 35.8hx30wx19.30d,9 plant dwc system, mini activated carbon scrubber,120cfm ball bearing exhaust fan,125cfm duct fan,dual air pump, two 10inch air stones, net baskets+hydroton rocks, 2 timers,GH nutes, and hydro grow guide.

For the price you cant beat it, now for the good and bad.

GOOD: Ease, this is my easiest grow ever, hands down. System has a great intake and exhaust fan, i dont have to freeze the house to keep the temps in the cab respectable, lights off 70-73F & on 82-84F. With the 125cfm fan so much CO2 is brought in the plants thrive. 400 watt hps makes such a huge difference in such a small space(check dimensions above). The reflector makes a huge difference, its a must if u decide to get the system.

BAD: Light leaks, i keep a black bed sheet over the system during night hours, i cut holes for the exhaust and intake fans. Also the system is made of white firm plastic, so it is bright as hell, no big problem if it is not in your room. The intake fan is somewhat loud but really is silent in comparison to my former set up. Also the carbon filter is not strong enough, i'm at 5 weeks in flower and already had to make adjustments, nothing to major though.

Final Verdict: So far i'm in love with this system, this is my first grow so i will let you all know how it goes. I didnt even use the hydro set up, i'm a soilless grower at heart, so this is what i did to start things off. I grow 12/12 straight from seed to harvest, i have 8 females plants in 1 gallon grow bags. I topped them to keep the height down because im only working with about 25 inches considering im using a 400 watt hps, i also LST. I'm at week 5 from sow. Sorry i dont have any pics to share but the results are ridiculous, i anticipate about 18-25 grams per plant, which is excellent since i have 8 plants inside. Four weeks before harvest i sow more seeds(10-12) in 16oz cups, within 3 weeks i will know which plants are male or female. The males get tossed and the females are transplanted to 1 gal. grow bags around the same time the eight mature plants are harvested, doing it like this i have an endless supply of bud. This whole process takes 2.5 months with indica and indica/sativa type plants. Seeds are not a problem since i have F2s and crosses of past seeds i have crossed by letting males pollinate females in earlier grows. Sensi StarXAfgani(AfganiStar) and MasterKushXHashberry(KushBerry) happen to be my 2 special creations. Both strains grow great in such a small area because both are squat plants that can be huddled together. I plan on topping and supercropping sativas like Jack Herer and Super Silver Haze.

If you can do it yourself go ahead but if you want the ease of just plugging in a system here u go you cant fail with this cab, the price really didnt hurt like it could have$1100 is made up with one harvest...EASY.
 

r32115

Well-Known Member
i am a first time grower and have been thrust into the world of aeroponics with the aerogarden! other than additions, and other nutrients, for what i want it for the aerogarden is awesome!!! salad greens setting for 24/7 water and a figure 8 connector for the lights for 12/12 timing, an airstone, pump, 3 100watt eq cfls and one 40 watt red spectrum floro. DIY co2 and i have some great looking plants. currently there are nine two pods have 2 plants, i will take it down to 3 as per everyone elses experience. i just need 3 strong def females.

i don't want to grow a million pounds of weed just enough to smoke
for the money i have put into it i would be happy with anything i get. so far i figure i have spent a total of $275 including the garden itself.

it seems to be a great small personal grow platform with good lights that you can just make better with more lights!!!
 

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Gygax1974

Just some idiot
I use the SH Bubbleponics and I will be using a Hydroflora 14 site drip unit. I will give you my review of the bubbleponics so, I'm not that far into my grow.

The SH unit seems to be doing a pretty good job so far, all seeds germinated and vegging nicely at moment. The airflow and wter flow can be a little trouble some but most hydro units are like that. What I really like about the SH unit is they have premeasured all of your nutes for you. Being new to hydro that was a definite plus. The unit is nicely built and easy to move around. The documentation that comes with it is also very good and walks you through set up, fedding, etc. I'm happy that I bought the unit. This is a good unit for new hydro guys/gals. If you already have lights great but if not they sell this unit with lighting packages. I already had lights but I bought some of their lights anyway...you can never have too many lights..lol.

The Hydroflora I bought can be found here
HydroFlora Systems for Indoor Closet Hydroponic Grow Boxes / Chambers
and here
Sunlight Sheds Hydroponics Systems
I just recieved this unit and have not starting using it yet. Anybody who has bought a cabinet from these guys would have some info on this. All I can say is that it came with everything it said it did including this cool little fogger for getting food and o2 to the roots. I will give a review on this unit once I start using it.

I give the SH unit a 4 out of 5 and would reccommend it to new hydro growers and personal growers it's a really nice little package for the money.
 

HydroHog

Active Member
Great Replies,:mrgreen:

I just now came back to this thread and this is great info for someone that is considering options.

I may be wrong about the bloombox price, It may be slightly less than that, but I'm convinced there are cheaper ways to go.

Thanks for all the great info.

HOG
 

ilikeblazin

Well-Known Member
I am using the Emily's Hydroponic System for my first grow.



I bought it from the internet and it came with:
• 2 Gallon Reservoir
• Formed Cover
• 6 Planters, Seed Starter Cubes & Growing Medium
• Pump & Tubing
• Hydroponic Nutrients & pH Test Kit
• Illustrated Instructions
• Water Level Indicator


Later on into my grow, I added 2 air pumps, and 3 air stones.
My plants have been getting lots of oxygen to the roots and I thought they would end up very well.

I am on 6th week flowering and my biggest plant is 25"
The biggest bud on my plant is probly a 15 bag sofar, and it looks like I am close to harvesting. I will see when my microscope comes to my mailbox sicne I ordered it from the internet.


It seems that my roots have stopped growing probly about the 4th week into flowering, maybe because of not enough room?

I have decided this was okay for my first grow, but I am going to sell it and buy a Stealth Hydroponics System.
 

JonnyBlunt88

Well-Known Member
Roseman, I realize you have left us but I still
dont think this thread should die...
I know there are others out there with
Pre-made systems, and this could be helpful to
all cultivators of Marijuana alike...
 

choppers4life

New Member
that's good to know! I should be getting my stealth 6 planter,deluxe lighting unit this week, hopefully tomorrow. it was a little pricy,but oh well, i think i'm going to like it, i have heard a lot of good things about it,so that's why i went with that, first timer here
 

TyrannusLeo

Active Member
I just got my system a few days ago, have six seeds in rockwool in the system, first one sprouted after three days, the others haven't popped out yet, but so far I'm impressed. All I've used nutrient wise so far is 30 ML of Liquid Karma. Will update later.
 

Smallsetup

Well-Known Member
Anyone tried the GH Waterfarm 8 pack or Eurogrower? I've been considering it since it's only 300 bucks for the 8 pack. bongsmilie
 

Singularity

Active Member
Aquamist IV

Price: $280.00

Aquamist Home Page

I bought an Aquamist IV a couple of years ago and while it is a good idiot proof beginner system it is not a true aeroponics system - it's more of a poor DWC with a sprinkler.

Description: The Aquamist IV is basically a 10 gallon square reseviour with a pump that feeds water to a spinning sprinkler in the middle of the 2' x 2' x 1' res container.​

The plants hang in baskets from holes drilled in a peice of 2' x 2' x ~3/16" fiber(?) sheet, with 8 gallons of water for 16 clones there is only a couple of inches of air between the water and the bottom of the baskets.​



The sprinkler head works like one of these, very thick drops of water. There is a mesh screen around the sprinkler to break up the water drops.​


The top options allow for clones, 16 small plants or 8 medium size. I opted for the 16 site and my last grow got away from me a bit. The 8 site would give much better light to the lower branches - I kept a couple middle sites open and next time around am going to use shorter clones. The tops bend towards the middle and I have to attach some type of support.​




The Aquamist comes with a nice PVC stand, keeps the res off the ground and brings the plants up to working height. The res also has a well for the pump to sit in, gets the bottom water.​

The unit comes with a nice 250 GPH mag drive pump.​



The Aquamist comes in 4 sizes, from 16" x16" (II) to 46" x 24" (I).​

Pros:

Simple, resiliant, safe, all in one container.​

It doesn't get much simpler than: a sprinkler for aero; oxyginate the res with the sprinkler; keep everything in one container so there are no leaks.​

Good construction, beautifully simple design, nice pump, hard to clog the spinner (because it puts out drops of water the size of a fertilizer truck - oh yeah, that's a con. I think).​

Has a side drain pipe connected to the pump that can empty the res without taking the top off.​

The plants are in a 2' x 2' square rather than in a longer PVC tube, good for smaller gardens.​

I could assemble it in a few minutes with no special tools.​


It's like the rainforest, except it's square instead of hexagon. And the Rainforest has a 17 gallon res, is 2' accross so the res might be ~2' deep, allowing for more roots to hang in air instead of water.​





Cons:

It's a Deep Water Culture system with a sprinkler.​

The top is difficult to take off when it's loaded with 16 heavy plants and soaked roots. The inside has to be cleaned every couple of weeks, in addition to draining the res twice a week, or silt/dead roots/etc will clog the pumps filter and the sprinkler will stop. Not to worry though, since you have a deep water culture system your plants will live until they drown in the un-oxygenated water rather than drying up as in a normal system.​

The Last Word:

The unit is beautifully simple and easy to use, resilliant and will take abuse from people new to hydro. You can screw up royally time after time and not kill your plants.​

It is not an aero system.​

While it was great to get my feet wet I want a true aero system, so I'm either going to: adapt this system with micro jet sprayers and a res for the Aquamist chamber to sit on so I can use the 12" high A.M. chamber for the roots to hang in with no water at the bottom; or make a system with PVC. Probably do the first then the second.​

Recomendation:

1. If you're new to hydro and aren't set on aero this is a good unit to start with. It will give you years of good service, just remember that you are not buying an aero system - you are getting a DWC system.​

2. If you don't want to shell out the $280.00 for the Aquamist IV you could make as many of these as you need, cutting holes in lids for 2-4 plants per bucket:​


I'm no hydro expert but from my experience the bucket and garden hose will give you an as good or better system than the Aquamist or Rainforest. If I were looking at either I would consider the Rainforest if it has a deeper res than the Aquamist IV. (17 gallon res with Rainforest 318, 10 Gallon res with Aquamist 4 - Rainforest for 18 sites, Aquamist for 16.)​
 

TyrannusLeo

Active Member
Three more seedlings hatched two days ago, all four of the successfully hatched seeds appear healthy and are growing at a steady rate while consuiming the nutrients in their seed. They're being feed city water mixed with Liquid Karma to help with birthing. The light being provided to the sprouted seedlings is a Sunshine Systems GlowPanel 45, and I must say the the seedlings are responding in a very positive way.
 

Cr8z13

Well-Known Member
I bought the Ebb & Gro system about two months ago. Great system overall. I'm only using eight buckets and I'm in week three of flowering. So far so good.

 
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