stoned _____ theory

mikek420 said:
That's my thought exactly. Its like when I trip around sombra we "talk" without words. I also for some reason when I DO speak, I talk to him in Spanish, and he understands.
Ever gone on a walk (solo or with a pet) and noticed wildlife talking to you?
You are headed past that pine tree, and a bluejay flies at you, as you retreat, the blue jay returns to the tree.
Or, one of my favorites, you are in the woods, lost and tripping, not scared lost just completely in nature and you SEE stuff (grasses, mushrooms, leaves) on the ground glowing and it leads you...
To a majestic site where you are captivated by the beauty
Or
It leads you on a nice path to where you need to go (back towards civilization, your house, a "destination")
I've been led to witness families of animals which I know I wouldn't have seen at any other time. Like everything is talking and for some reason I can understand it. I'm beginning to SEE this stuff when I'm not tripping now, like even though I don't understand what is being said, I can hear the conversation
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You are gaining distinction. Distinction is what brings things out of the void of sameness.

Ever notice when you learn a new word, you heat I tore often

That is distinction.

Go foraging and look and look and find nothing. Your partner finds a mushroom and shows it to you and all of a sudden you see them everywhere, you have your mushroom eyes on. That is distinction.
 
mikek420 said:
I do with my mom and its like I know what I should do to make things easier I just don't do them for some reason and then lately I've been trying to step back and I think it works more like instead of trying to do what I always do I let her have her say and then I'm like ok. And that surprises her cause I try not to argue back or anything like that but not because I don't want her to see my point, which I always end up telling her anyway but later and more calm I guess, but because I'm seeing a bigger picture than what is happening in the here and now
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Ha ha. My little boy is growing up. I used to be the same way. It's like you have to wrangle yourself in. Body chemistry chaining your spirit. Even though you feel the right thing to do. It's like your body chem takes over and goes ROAAAR!
 
HeatlessBBQ said:
Have any of You noticed when You are tripping LSD around cats or dogs, They act a lot "different" or seem like They communicate with Their body language and eyes more?...
Or maybe it's just the Tripper being extremely aware??? Thoughts???
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Yes it is the tripper being extremely aware, "plants and animals will recognize and react to your Presence" Tolle. For me lsd and mushrooms especially mushrooms heightens awareness 10 fold. One time on acid I became extremely aware of my sisters dog ginger, it was a small corgy she got from the animal shelter about 10 years old, bc I was so extremely aware and present I became aware of the dogs personality and noticed that it was suffering from extreme anxiety, she must have been abused or something I could almost feel the abuse this dog had suffered, it was shaking for about 5-6 seconds every 10 seconds or so, but then when I went to pat it and radiate my love to it she stopped completely and even smiled for as long as I did that. When I came down from the trip I could still recognize the anxiety in her and although I was not nearly as in tune with her I could still calm her down with love and affection.
 
That's awesome!
Ok another on people (I had to look up empathy and look at a few different definitions to get a good feel about it)

I got a guy at work who is most likely borderline retarded. He is Mexican, but a lot of the time if he speaks in Spanish the Mexicans won't understand and if he speaks in English, well I'm fucked as English=talking directly to mike AND his English is worse than his Spanish!

He tells me that he had a Chinese girlfriend at one time and "mishu mishu" is a Chinese phrase. But he says shit like
mishu masha!
mishi mishi mashu moshu!
Of course we have figured out (and he confirms) that its no real language, I'm thinking part of his "specialness" shining forth lol
BUT
When I stop paying attention, stop thinking on his intelligence, stop trying to rationalize
Mishu mishu
And just LOOK at what is happening in the moment, I see that he needs a towel, or a hand, or for me to get the fuck out of his way.
Now, the Mexicans still don't understand him, the gringos don't talk to him (they talk to us bilingual people) but I understand him perfectly fine, and sometimes translate (its real funny cause he'll go misha misha masha, I'll give him a spoon and he'll say "whaat you understand my language?)
 
mikek420 said:
That's awesome!
Ok another on people (I had to look up empathy and look at a few different definitions to get a good feel about it)

I got a guy at work who is most likely borderline retarded. He is Mexican, but a lot of the time if he speaks in Spanish the Mexicans won't understand and if he speaks in English, well I'm fucked as English=talking directly to mike AND his English is worse than his Spanish!

He tells me that he had a Chinese girlfriend at one time and "mishu mishu" is a Chinese phrase. But he says shit like
mishu masha!
mishi mishi mashu moshu!
Of course we have figured out (and he confirms) that its no real language, I'm thinking part of his "specialness" shining forth lol
BUT
When I stop paying attention, stop thinking on his intelligence, stop trying to rationalize
Mishu mishu
And just LOOK at what is happening in the moment, I see that he needs a towel, or a hand, or for me to get the fuck out of his way.
Now, the Mexicans still don't understand him, the gringos don't talk to him (they talk to us bilingual people) but I understand him perfectly fine, and sometimes translate (its real funny cause he'll go misha misha masha, I'll give him a spoon and he'll say "whaat you understand my language?)
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There you go.
 
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New Age United said:
Yes it is the tripper being extremely aware, "plants and animals will recognize and react to your Presence" Tolle. For me lsd and mushrooms especially mushrooms heightens awareness 10 fold. One time on acid I became extremely aware of my sisters dog ginger, it was a small corgy she got from the animal shelter about 10 years old, bc I was so extremely aware and present I became aware of the dogs personality and noticed that it was suffering from extreme anxiety, she must have been abused or something I could almost feel the abuse this dog had suffered, it was shaking for about 5-6 seconds every 10 seconds or so, but then when I went to pat it and radiate my love to it she stopped completely and even smiled for as long as I did that. When I came down from the trip I could still recognize the anxiety in her and although I was not nearly as in tune with her I could still calm her down with love and affection.
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this is amazing.
LSD really can show One empathy at THE highest human degree.
 
And shrooms and dmt to a point, I wouldn't say DMT too much because it is so short lived that you might feel a change but you will be sober before too long
 
What if the plants are the most intellegent?
think about it, a plant never has to die. it can keep getting bigger, parts of it can fall off or get cut off and transplanted, live, grow, be the exact same plant genetically, people obviously manipulate the plants... but what if it is the plants that are manipulating us?

I think its gotta be everything manipulating everything at the same time, we all (all things) have some urge to keep going and improve, I was looking at lists of plants that contain dmt, and other entheogen compounds. theres literally thousands of them, and that makes me wonder, what if everyTHING contains an entheogen for something else? catnip-cats dmt-humans etc etc
 
HeatlessBBQ said:
Well said @mikek420 . The plants are teachers.
Plants do not manipulate. Only human beings or minds do that.

Plants work in love, awareness, and harmony with it's surroundings.
Human minds working with love will heal.
Human minds working with evil can destroy.

Meditation is an entheogen, brother.
Rewire the mind to the heart from fear to love.
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Very well said Heatless
 
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