Stem splitting anyone tried ?

Just found an old school grow book from the 80s really good read - any how there was a section on stem splitting in last week of flowering anyone tried ? Any thoughts ?

Hi Leeski,
I'm an old timer and remember those discussions when they were new. I believe the idea cam from a style of growing used in Columbia and Southern Mexico. They would put a large nail through the stem...thus splitting it and then leave the plant to dry standing in the field. I doubt that there was any science to it...and it never caught on. Never tried it myself.
JD

JohnDee said:

Hi Leeski,
I'm an old timer and remember those discussions when they were new. I believe the idea cam from a style of growing used in Columbia and Southern Mexico. They would put a large nail through the stem...thus splitting it and then leave the plant to dry standing in the field. I doubt that there was any science to it...and it never caught on. Never tried it myself.
JD

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Hi man thanks for reply love reading old school grow books the reason the book gave for splitting the stem was to shock the plant into thinking it was under threat and death was imminent hence the plant pushes every last ounce of energy into reproduction kinda makes sense but don’t think I’m brave enough to try it lol

Leeski said:

Hi man thanks for reply love reading old school grow books the reason the book gave for splitting the stem was to shock the plant into thinking it was under threat and death was imminent hence the plant pushes every last ounce of energy into reproduction kinda makes sense but don’t think I’m brave enough to try it lol

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I was never brave enough to try it either. It may make sense using human logic...but not totally sure if the added stress will actually increase potency. The plant is already experiencing stress from being prepared for reproduction...but no pollen in sight. So I choose to not add additional stress...
JD

They do this with apple trees that will not bloom. They know when they are under attack and most would then bloom

a lot of old tomato growers also

I always try to make low stress as possible

More bro-science. If it really worked everyone would be doing it and talking about it.

really need a controlled study on it to really find out if true or not. like clones from same plant, then EVERYTHING the same till chop, except for the splitting of course. I do it, but my grows usually have something wrong with them to notice really, lol..

Brain storming in the past about it, you have to think, the reason is for more resin, so I think the best way to get the most would be to do 3 days before 48 hours darkness, and Low light intensity, maybe 25% of your flowering watts. Heat and light destroy the trics, and Ive seen more frost in lower light conditions, ala bottom buds furthest away from light, then top colas that bathe in the light. So, at this point, we are trying to protect the trics from melting off and getting light damage. So keep that idea in mind if you try it.

Not saying it the best way to do it, because i dont know really, but the thought is, Build more frost, and protect it from excessive heat and light. Also, during the last 3 days before the 48 hour darkness, Use 5000K if at all possible, or the highest K value u have. On my final week before chop, I use just my 4000K, but looking to upgrade to higher value in the near future, just to finish off the buds before chopping.

Just some input for the thread, food for thought.

If resin production increases as a response to stress, the idea of introducing purposeful stress is not outlandish.

I usually start them off slowly, with some verbal abuse and move on to drilling holes in their stems after they get paranoid and jumpy around me.

the guy on ilgm.com writes about this method. Something about cutting the stem with a sharp blade and inserting a chop stick and taping the stem above and below the cut not necessarily in that order. Think he says it's a Chinese method (that he suggests using a chopstick is just a coincidence).

There was another thread like this where I said I would do this next harvest. My plan is to drill a hole in the stem 5-7 days before harvest, and I'm thinking of doing a red light /uvb "dark" period the last 2 days too. Red lights are 660/730/810nm diodes and 400nm blue with a solacure uvb

I'll post pics. Plants come down in eta 13 days

T macc said:

There was another thread like this where I said I would do this next harvest. My plan is to drill a hole in the stem 5-7 days before harvest, and I'm thinking of doing a red light /uvb "dark" period the last 2 days too. Red lights are 660/730/810nm diodes and 400nm blue with a solacure uvb

I'll post pics. Plants come down in eta 13 days

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Please post pics really interesting subject

Leeski said:

Please post pics really interesting subject

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I'm thinking of just making a thread so ppl can be pointed to the answer. Or just here.
In my prediction, it won't make much of a difference. However, I don't have a clone to compare it to. Kinda sucks, but I'll take pictures the day I drill, the last day of light, and harvest day. Pics will be of the same bud(s) for comparison shots

I have had stems split during training, no repair attempts. They went thru the whole flowering and no problems. I didn't notice any potency or yield difference and no pollen. Happens a lot around here. Very rarely does one wilt. Here is a GG4 split stem that was split for it's entire flowering cycle.



I have even had it happen at the main trunk. Big stems, little ones. Buds hanging over 180 degrees pointing down and still growing.

Good point. I did super crop a branch on week 2 or 3 thus round. It took about 3 weeks to heal while under the UVB, but in that time, it did appear to be frostier. Now it just looks the same as the rest. I'll check again today

I've done it years ago. Didn't do anything at all. Waste of time. It's just some of that flawed stoner science that makes the rounds every few years.

More bro science, like good tasting weed and ethereal highs.. Mythical.

Just like boiling the oxygen out of the rhizo to stop uptake, or using a magic wand to track movement of elements through the plants daily cycle. All online urban legend hippy nonsense.

Turns out weed is a myth all together I just started snorting kool bloom and get just as high.

mother nature worked for millions of years to get to this point with our herb ,I have to say don't stress your plants unless you want less from them , i don't want to list all my grow details but basically in 15l auto pots I pull 4 oz dried bud per girl and the furthest I go is topping or some lst and low pruning for airflow.
you don't see farmer up ladders hacking away at their trees whist they have fruit on.
If you supercrop be sure to take some clones shortly after to see if you can get a Frankenstein bush.
peace out
George

xtsho said:

I've done it years ago. Didn't do anything at all. Waste of time. It's just some of that flawed stoner science that makes the rounds every few years.

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I've heard of using thumb tacks for stressing plants. Never did it myself. My plants have plenty of stress just having me in charge of their care.

Anarchy4theUK said:

mother nature worked for millions of years to get to this point with our herb ,I have to say don't stress your plants unless you want less from them. . . . . . .

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Hemp was made by millions of years of mother nature. Weed was made by 3-4 thousand years of man finding the good stuff, and putting those seeds away to try in a private patch.

Chopping next week. The hole is prepared to put the nail in the coffin lol. Used a 1/4 inch drill bit angled down the main stem. Could barely get my drill to the base.

I think I'll just post pics next week when this is done