States look to tax guns, ammo

Doer said:

ehhhhh....almost. The big WE makes unintended consequence that WweE have to live . But, is always, no exceptions, to fix previous consequence, unintended or not.

And so on....WE fixed King G's consequences and he could do nothing. WE became the sovereigns and vote the big smile jerk guys and the queen bitch maidens into office. Then WE, for the day, can go back to, we be chasing happiness.

So, I know you have the peeve about the thugs in badges, but still, WE be thugs in badges. And it's not like the other countries. That's your neighbor. His kids are in the school, too. Just another citizen with a self struggle, but that he chose for his freedom. That is the difference.

Maybe read some Joseph Wambaugh about life on the thin blue line. It is because WweE are such rowdy thugs ourselves.

Criminal minds, but with with a Badge. Thank the Lords of Ganja. (Just stay away from them and be cool, I say.)

"Sabra cai', motherfucker!" (if you know the Wambaugh reference)

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I haven't read any Wambaugh, and might want to correct that. I am moved to observe however that he wrote about a bygone time before the police were remodeled into today's combat attorneys and security patrols.
I also don't see the police as being any part of WE. They do seem to have a mentality that they stand apart. Witness just about every police chief/commissioner supporting antigun legislation and propaganda ... so long as they are exempt. Apart. Privileged. cn

cannabineer said:

I haven't read any Wambaugh, and might want to correct that. I am moved to observe however that he wrote about a bygone time before the police were remodeled into today's combat attorneys and security patrols.
I also don't see the police as being any part of WE. They do seem to have a mentality that they stand apart. Witness just about every police chief/commissioner supporting antigun legislation and propaganda ... so long as they are exempt. Apart. Privileged. cn

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Couldn't have the plebs trying to defend against their "confiscations" now, could we?

echelon1k1 said:

Seriously is that commonplace? I know bullets are being bought up like chocolate before easter, but does anyone really need a 5000 round stockpile?

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5k rounds won't last that long if you like to shoot...I went shooting the other day and fired off 200 rounds, thats only 10 clips.....you must not shoot much...

He is in Oz, where they took up the guns. No Constitutional rights. Much more of local citizen committee mob rule. You should see the danger shit these mobs pull on motorcycles while the cops are willingly involved.

No RIGHTS in Australia as we know them. Still Crown Subjects, after all this time.

cannabineer said:

I haven't read any Wambaugh, and might want to correct that. I am moved to observe however that he wrote about a bygone time before the police were remodeled into today's combat attorneys and security patrols.

I also don't see the police as being any part of WE. They do seem to have a mentality that they stand apart. Witness just about every police chief/commissioner supporting antigun legislation and propaganda ... so long as they are exempt. Apart. Privileged. cn

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OK...correct me on Wambaugh, you mean? He writes about big city law enforcement. How about, see any Dragnet, when we were kids? Before Miranda? Jump the perp from behind waiting in his private residence?

So, why not our Police?. They come from WE. To me, WE each think we are Apart. Privileged. Self-ruled. A nation of one.

Come on! Thing are better now. And things elsewhere in this world are worse. Japan. Do you know the common activity forced on Japanese prisoners. 6 am rise, exercise drills, then 2 hrs. of folding paper bag by hand, in the strict origami order. You must sit on a mat, legs folded on the floor. 8 hrs of bags. And you must produce.

Instead of 5-7 years of criminalization in the big house, you get 25 strictly counted months of bag production. They will make you serious about it in that particular Japanese way. Very low re-incarceration rate.

So, WE don't do that. WE hire thugs to deal with our thugs in prision based economy. We would rather put people to the torture of rats in a box, than to force hard labor.

We can count up our interactions...but I had so many, many. And I was vaguely threatened once with boxing in the downstairs ring with a few correction officers. I took that seriously.

I was slapped once, so back in the 714s I would not give my name. I was warned about bull queers. I took that seriously.

And I watch all the police shows. I love to see them drunks trying to interact with cops. I see myself, in a previous life. So, it's tough to be a cop and it is tough on use when we try to be the drunken tough guy.

In my experience cops won't do those things they are capable of, if I don't piss them off, and am sweet and humble when in contact.

Doer said:

OK...correct me on Wambaugh, you mean? He writes about big city law enforcement. How about, see any Dragnet, when we were kids? Before Miranda? Jump the perp from behind waiting in his private residence?

Come on! Thing are better now. And things elsewhere in this world are worse. Japan. Do you the common activity forced on Japanese prisoners. 6 am rise, exercise drills, then 2 hrs. of folding paper bag by hand, in the strict origami order. You must sit on a mat, legs folded on the floor. And you must produce.

Intstead of 5-7 years of criminalization in the big house, you get 25 strictly counted months of bag production. They will make you serious about it in that particular Japanese way.

So, WE don't do that. WE hire thugs to deal with our thugs in prision based economy. We would rather put people to the torture of rats in a box, than to force hard labor.

We can count up our interactions...but I had so many, many. And I was vaguely threatened once with boxing in the downstairs ring with a few correction officers. I took that seriously.

I was slapped once, so back in the 714s I would not give my name. I was warned about bull queers. I took that seriously.

And I watch all the police shows. I love to see them drunks trying to interact with cops. I see myself, in a previous life. So, it's tough to be a cop and it is tough on use when we try to be the drunken tough guy.

In my experience cops won't do those things they are capable of, if I don't piss them off, and am sweet and humble when in contact.

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Oh my. What I meant by correct that was ... I need to correct my oversight and read some. cn

OK! Read some. The Onion Fields to start? I can be corrected on Wambough along with everything else.

cannabineer said:

Oh my. What I meant by correct that was ... I need to correct my oversight and read some. cn

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phfiffle.

read

Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follet
First Man In Rome by Colleen McCullough
Tunnel In The Sky by Heinlein
The Regiment by John Dalmas
or my personal favorite
The Faded Sun Trilogy by CJ Cherryh.

Doer said:

He is in Oz, where they took up the guns. No Constitutional rights. Much more of local citizen committee mob rule. You should see the danger shit these mobs pull on motorcycles while the cops are willingly involved.

No RIGHTS in Australia as we know them. Still Crown Subjects, after all this time.

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If things don't change for "WE" you'll soon be wondering... "rights? we had those once..."

Don't know if you see it, but the rest of the world does...