Spider farmer SF-4000 appears to be a fire hazard.

You guys are tripping. Sure. Fire hazard. No doubt. Thing is it's a man made product and as such can fail.

Multiple things could have caused the issue. From high humidity to pcb defect.

To think that one brand is safer than another is silly. Sure a better product will less likely fail but failures happen. All manufactured products have failures period.

Grow rooms can be a hazard. It's the reason I have automatic fire extinguishers for mine.

I don't fault a manufacturer by thier failures. I judge them by the response to thier failures.

Recalls happen all the time. A responsible manufacturer will recall and replace faulty products.

jonnynobody said:

I really don't want one of their shitty replacement units. The purpose of this thread is to inform other owners of spider farmer branded lights there is a fire hazard risk with their units. They didn't just change the assembly line for the unit they sold me. That means there are many others like it out there with the same potential for a melting PCB causing a subsequent fire. I just have to remind myself you've got down syndrome or something. That's the only way I can make any sense outta you.

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That can happen with literally any product made. You don't know it's a recurring issue. It could be an isolated incident. Failures happen on all man made products. You could've even had a power surge in your electric. Do you use surge protection on your lights?

The take away from this should be prepared. They make automatic fire extinguishers. I use them.



If you don't want to run that type get the can type for stoves.

I get your mad but that can happen with any pcb.

Edit. I've read back and see the response from spider. That's where I judge. How a company handles it.

will be closed soon - cant run down the sponsors, they speak with forked tongue, there has been so many documented issues regarding this brand, not saying the product is crap its the company and there customer service which is pretty bad. Yes theirs the language barrier and so forth- no excuse . We export and import from China/ Asian company's all the time dont have issues like this - the company will have people that can/will speak English working for them ,there partner company does not have these issues... have 3 lights here from Spider farmer - used the heatsink for other things (cut them up for fishing)- had a driver burn out/diodes died brought these lights when first started indoor personally I could not recommend this brand as I dont think they are up to par as they say , cant take the risk- and yes I have fire protection -

ok seems pretty clear, if your gona use mars hydro install automatic fire extinguishers...

grotbags said:

ok seems pretty clear, if your gona use mars hydro install automatic fire extinguishers...

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Not what I meant. Fire suppression should be used on any grow. It's cheap peace of mind. How sick would it make you for a grow to burn your house? I bet insurance wouldn't pay.

whitebb2727 said:

Not what I meant. Fire suppression should be used on any grow. It's cheap peace of mind. How sick would it make you for a grow to burn your house? I bet insurance wouldn't pay.

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What automatic fire suppression do you use ?

whitebb2727 said:

You guys are tripping. Sure. Fire hazard. No doubt. Thing is it's a man made product and as such can fail.

Multiple things could have caused the issue. From high humidity to pcb defect.

To think that one brand is safer than another is silly. Sure a better product will less likely fail but failures happen. All manufactured products have failures period.

Grow rooms can be a hazard. It's the reason I have automatic fire extinguishers for mine.

I don't fault a manufacturer by thier failures. I judge them by the response to thier failures.

Recalls happen all the time. A responsible manufacturer will recall and replace faulty products.

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Your avatar suits you.

whitebb2727 said:

Not what I meant. Fire suppression should be used on any grow. It's cheap peace of mind. How sick would it make you for a grow to burn your house? I bet insurance wouldn't pay.

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I have 2 smoke detectors on each side of the flower room and one outside the grow room with a fire extinguisher hanging on the wall. I don't think there's any operational issue with the board at this point but I do expect to see some diodes fail in the next year. It's a poor design. They pack too many diodes on the pcb then slap 'em on a thin piece of aluminum that can't properly dissipate the heat. The aluminum is twice as thick on my other qb's. I never would have even looked if this melting glue problem hadn't happened. It's a shame. It otherwise would have been a great overpriced board.

josh2663 said:

What automatic fire suppression do you use ?

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One of the watchdog I linked earlier. From htg supply. Out of stock right now. There are others on the market. Google automatic fire extinguishers.

PadawanWarrior said:

Your avatar suits you.

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Why's that?

jonnynobody said:

I have 2 smoke detectors on each side of the flower room and one outside the grow room with a fire extinguisher hanging on the wall. I don't think there's any operational issue with the board at this point but I do expect to see some diodes fail in the next year. It's a poor design. They pack too many diodes on the pcb then slap 'em on a thin piece of aluminum that can't properly dissipate the heat. The aluminum is twice as thick on my other qb's. I never would have even looked if this melting glue problem hadn't happened. It's a shame. It otherwise would have been a great overpriced board.

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I get it. It may well be a inferior design. I've tested lights in the past and gave feedback and the company listened. That may not be the case here. It's worth seeing if someone higher up at the company would listen and improve the design. I used to be a fabricator and used a lot of aluminum. I know prices have went up but they could easily increase the thickness of the heatsink for a few bucks each light.

My point was simply no matter the cost of a product there are failures. Better safe than sorry.

Spiderfarmerled said:

Hello, spider farmer customer service here.
Sorry for the late to reply, please do not worry, we will try best to solve your issue.
Please DM us your order information (Order number from which platform) .
Looking for your kindly reply.
Thanks

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Hello Im going to dm you any info you need. I just got my SF 2000 in september as part of a kit. Used in one grow and the light is already yellowing in spots and one spot is not "smooth"

Im hoping something can be done because I cant feel safe using a light that can be both a fire hazard and a toxic hazard if this flakes off on to my plants


Edit: How do I pm you lol?

This is what I gathered on YouTube about that issue

So I’m guessing their isn’t any risk at all with any high out put light crammed into a tent to catch fire and burn down our houses. They should put what day of the week their made on the boxes. I would avoid mondays and fridays. Usually Wednesday are the best days to by since it’s hump day.

Autodoctor said:

So I’m guessing their isn’t any risk at all with any high out put light crammed into a tent to catch fire and burn down our houses. They should put what day of the week their made on the boxes. I would avoid mondays and fridays. Usually Wednesday are the best days to by since it’s hump day.

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I thought Wednesday was a shower day.

PadawanWarrior said:

I thought Wednesday was a shower day.

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Wednesday is hamburger day, Thursday is chicken

Frank Nitty said:

Wednesday is hamburger day, Thursday is chicken

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Maybe that flew right over their heads

The company reached out and took care of the issue shortly after my last post. They did stand behind their product. Good customer service.

Wednesday is Prince Spaghetti day

Herb & Suds said:

Wednesday is Prince Spaghetti day

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Not in the feds it ain't

Frank Nitty said:

Not in the feds it ain't

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It’s an eastern thing

Burgers on Wednesday, chicken on Thursday, fish on Friday... Clockwork... The only way that it changes is if there's a holiday... MLK day is like going to a soul food restaurant, 4th of July too... Then for Thanksgiving and Christmas they try to make it like you're at home with the typical meals for those days, but you're still on the clock, meaning sit down, shut up ,eat fast,FASTER!!! Get the fuck out, NEXT!!! 10 years of that will make anyone crazy! WHOO!!! Almost fell off the edge just now!!!