Soon Your DVR Will Be Watching and Listening To You!!!!!!

ClaytonBigsby

ClaytonBigsby

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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sidesho...sements-based-recordings-users-014434311.html

This makes me crazy angry. This country is WAAAAAAAY out of control. I'm looking for another country to spend the rest of my life in before we cannot get out.

[h=1]New DVR will use camera and microphone to target advertisements based on recordings of users[/h]






By Eric Pfeiffer, Yahoo! News | The Sideshow – 3 hrs ago






A new Verizon patent envisions an application that would target advertisements by filming and recording viewers …It won't be long before our televisions are watching us.
You don't have to be paranoid or even a privacy expert to find this development a little creepy. Verizon has filed a patent on a new DVR technology that works by filming and recording viewers in order to send them targeted ads through their TV's.
"If detection facility detects one or more words spoken by a user (e.g., while talking to another user within the same room or on the telephone), advertising facility may utilize the one or more words spoken by the user to search for and/or select an advertisement associated with the one or more words," Verizon states in its application,which was first reported by Fierce Cable.
The patent was actually filed by Verizon in 2011 but the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office isn't required to release patent filings for 18 months.
And before you dismiss concerns over the new technology, which works as a software application, just consider two of the examples Verizon gives of how its new DVR technology could be used: sounds of couples arguing would trigger ads for marriage counseling while sounds of "cuddling" would prompt ads for contraceptives.
All together, the patent filing listed 20 examples, or "claims," of when the DVR technology could be used for the application, which is entitled, "Methods and Systems for Presenting an Advertisement Associated with an Ambient Action of a User."
As ArsTechnica points out, Verizon is not alone is filing patents of this nature. Comcast filed a similar patent in 2008 for using technology that would deliver ads based on which people were in a room at a given time. And in 2007, Google filed a patent for its Google TV service that would use cameras and audio recording devices to determine how many people were simultaneously watching a program.
 
First of all it's a private company making a product, not the country as a whole. Verizon only. Second, you will have to buy this. It will probably not be standard. From what I understand.
 


As with anything, it is only the beginning. They will all be doing it and soon you won't have a choice. Well, your choice will be to not have tv.
 
Clayton, you may not want to google mark klein then.
Also Hackin9 magazine had an informative article a few years back on the deployment of active advertising based on mics and rfd's in proximity to your smartphone. Survellence under the guise of advertising. They called it l.b.s. location based services.
 
What`s a DVR ? Can ya put a piece of tape over it ? Maybe put a mirror in front of the TV and they can watch themselves !! Do I have to take that Wii radar down ? I don`t know sh*t about electronics !!
 
if your using satellite, it can only beam down, it doesn't send anything back, it only does that thru the phone line you hook up, most people don't run home phones anymore, so that's easy. Just don't get vios or cable and your all good.
 
i saw this yesterday and almost flipped my shit, but then i calmed down and took a realistic look at this. right now it's just a patent. actually implementing this would be something else, though probably not impossible.

when i worked for cable all the tinfoil hat types were already griping about their "spy boxes" that are really quite primitive as far as modern technology goes. the current ones don't collect a whole lot of data that would be useful for marketing, and any data they COULD use would be an unbelievable nightmare to extract and compile and i assure you no one would bother.

now, on to the likely reality of these boxes, which does concern me. while it's true that you will probably be able to avoid them, it will come at a cost. you will be restricted from a lot of services that may be built into your pricing package by not having one of these because i can promise you they will weave all sorts of other goodies into these things to make them something you just HAVE to have.

you can also do the cable card thing which will cut you off from two-way services like video on demand, pay per view, and various other services. there are often communication and tuning issues between the cards and the host equipment and a lot of extra technical crap on the customer service end which can sometimes lead to problems. they are not some heavenly godsend that will save you from having a box.

i worry that we will come to a point where "opting out" of all this spy shit will leave you cold and in the dark living like a peasant. i'm already feeling the hurt of not having a facebook account when it comes to actually needing to network. i was forced into a google account along with my cell phone contract. sure, i could say no, if i wanted to have a fucking flip phone from 1997. we are coming to a point where opting out isn't a real option unless you want to live like the amish, and that is fucking scary.
 
Heh anyone who has an Xbox with Kinect ALREADY has this spying going in in their home. Did you read the EULA?

Sections 9 and 12 of the updated terms of service are particularly scary :


If you accept the agreement, you “expressly authorize and consent to us accessing or disclosing information about you, including the content of your communications, in order to: (a) comply with the law or respond to lawful requests or legal process; (b) protect the rights or property of Microsoft, our partners, or our customers, including the enforcement of our agreements or policies governing your use of the Service; or (c) act on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public.”
Also scary? they reserve the right to monitor your voice and chat sessions using their new camera system. Personal privacy? Not so personal, not so private.
“You should not expect any level of privacy concerning your use of the live communication features (for example, voice chat, video and communications in live-hosted gameplay sessions) offered through the Service.” They obviously won’t – and can’t – monitor every single system at the same time, but they say that they have the right to do so “to the maximum extent permitted by law.”
Microsoft also “reserves the right at all times to disclose any information as necessary to satisfy any applicable law, regulation, legal process or governmental request, or to edit, refuse to post or to remove any information or materials, in whole or in part, in Microsoft’s sole discretion.” Break the law in front of your Kinect system? You could be up against the law.
 
Don't have cable.

Don't have a cell phone.

Don't care.

P.S. While I understand the long term concerns, do you really think that we're anywhere close to an age where DVR's built into TV's is even standardized? Much less a specific proprietary version that hasn't even been implemented yet? There are plenty of people out there still using fake-brown-wood-laminate-sided dual-knobbers. I could see this getting implemented to the point that it's somewhat common, but almost never standardized. This is akin to when they make new rules stating cars must have x feature... it applies to new cars manufactured after that date, but I still people driving around in 70's models, so what the fuck does it matter? Variety will continue to be available, and we can make informed choices. USUALLY from the cheaper end of the spectrum, to boot.

I don't feel out of the loop at all. The internet trumps all.
 
open up your dvr remove camera and mic, and void warranty... Just get a fricken old dvr off ebay! these stupid manufacterers!
 
Crazy shit, folks. I bet they also use Onstar in your car. I get furious when I go to play Madden on my PS3 and it tells me I cannot do anything until I update my software. You HAVE TO agree to the new terms or you cannot use the GD console.

Thank you all for the input. I have been telling my friends for years to treat their cell phones like a microphone to the police. We have given up all of our rights and the US has ALREADY become a police state. Freedom is an illusion/joke. BushCo took away the last shred of privacy with the Patriot Act I & II.

Kids today have no idea.
 
Clayton, you're right you have to remove the batt. from your cell to be completely sure. Also those Splice rooms the feds put in the telco central offices relayed back to the NSA, where former agents had said they were instructed to now "actively listen to american citizens communications".
 
ClaytonBigsby said:


As with anything, it is only the beginning. They will all be doing it and soon you won't have a choice. Well, your choice will be to not have tv.
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Not having TV is an excellent choice. Can you imagine all of the brainwashing you could avoid by not watching advertisements for 20 minutes of very hour. What excellent hobbies would you pursue if you didn't watch TV 5 hours a day? Is your ass flabby? Do you grow you own food? Have you helped really, really poor people live better lives?

TV is a choice. It is a choice to ignore your well being and live life like a sheep. Choose well grasshopper.
 
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