Something Screwy Here

misshestermoffitt

New Member
I think people should share. If you have millions of dollars in your bank account, how can you drive past people who are starving and living on the street? Sickening is what it is. The same people who do this are the ones who donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to their churches trying to buy their way into the heaven they believe in. Maybe they should learn that greed is one of their 7 deadly sins.
 

******

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there is nothing immediate about it nor is it anything new. the love affair of the american people with free stuff is long standing and has been undermining our work ethic from the very beginning. obama is merely the latest and most extreme version of the politician that caters to the avarice and indolence of the american people.

we seem to have fallen for our own press. the myths that the streets are paved with gold and that all americans are free from want has led us to believe that we are all entitled to the best of what the world has to offer, regardless of our drive or ambition. obama is only telling us what we want to hear, that government is there to take care of us and has only our best interests at heart. it's a road we've been traveling for quite some time and, though many would like to see a return of personal responsibility, a road that will eventually lead us to our enslavement.

i know perfectly well that no one wants to be told they are a lazy self-serving slob. we tell ourselves that we are doing these things for the sake of others, but we really know those deceptions are just a load of crap. we are the others. we are the ones that should be aiding the needy, but we don't seem to care enough to do it ourselves. we farm out that menial task to uncaring bureaucrats so we will have someone to blame when it all goes to shit.
r u saying welfare for the middle class is unexceptable , what bout welfare for faith based orgs , what bout corp welfare , would u take assistence if down and out , i bet u would live under bridge 1st . r u like rush...... yrs of demonizing the aclu but then he took their help .
 

******

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real mature dank, i bet dank hasnt got laid in a while you can just tell:bigjoint:

i mean why try to insult my man over here, he points out an interesting coincidence that has occured in this very unique and historic election



Obama Osama
Biden BinLadin


if obama gets elected what will the arabs say? death to america and thier leader barak hussian?:bigjoint: man they will be thrown for a loop on that one

and i also demand afermative action socialist policies to end upon his inaguration


plus he must stop all the federal raids for marijuana in legal states


then i will forgive him for cutting in the line and taking mcains last chance at the presidency
more dumb shit have u explained y u lied to win debate
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
I bet there is someone out there who lost their job and is facing life on the street that would be more than happy to mow your grass.
I don't have any grass, something about not being able to afford one of these "affordable" houses. You know, the same ones that are supposed to have their prices stabilized by McCain or Obama.

As far as sharing. My response is, "When the government stops stealing my money, maybe I'll give a damn about donating to charities. Until such a time you need to go talk to the government, they have more of my money than I do.
 

ganjaman13

Well-Known Member
Like the original post was mature..... Oh I get it, as long as the post is against Obama it's Mature and if you rebut the post with the Same kind of post it's immature.

Don't worry I will be laughing at you especially when Obama is president. You want to know why? You become irrelevant.
The person who made the original post is a mouth breather, same as anyone who supports the original post. Like I said to the person who posted it in the first place, it's Juvenile, same as you are being Big P.
actually the original thread was supposed to be a joke it was just an observation i made while looking at a sign its being taken far to seriously the funny thing is im voting for obama
 

undertheice

Well-Known Member
.....I look at our country as a large, extended family, and we're all in this together.....
I think people should share.....
to both of the above posts i can say nothing more than, "i agree wholeheartedly". all of mankind is loosely related and we should be willing to lend aid to those in need. the family of man, like any family, will have those who are in need of assistance as well as those who just refuse to help themselves. the analogy is limited, however, in that it excludes the use of force that all governments deem necessary in order to elicit that aid. the involuntary redistribution of wealth negates the concept of choice (freedom) and replaces is with threats of violence and incarceration (slavery).

i hope, miss m, that you can see the difference between what should be done and what must be done. by giving government the power to haphazardly redistribute our personal property we essentially give up our right to own anything. even as a whole, the people own nothing. it is the government that controls all goods and services and, with them, the destiny of the people. this might be all fine and dandy if the people were actually in control of government, but we know perfectly well that this just isn't the case.

r u saying welfare for the middle class is unacceptable , what bout welfare for faith based orgs , what bout corp welfare ,
i'm saying that welfare should be a temporary service employed only in the gravest of cases instead of the cradle to grave control that socialist ideals have been attempting to foist off on us for decades. the freedom to fail is just as important as the freedom to succeed. government bailouts, whether they are to individuals or to organizations, negate the fear of the risks that are necessary in order to succeed. without the fear of loss there is no limit to the amount of risk one is willing to take, since you know you won't be the one having to pay for it all should things go south. with government using the taxpayers' money to pay for every little mistake, there is soon nothing left to pay for the true business of government and they must dig deeper into our pockets just to keep things running.

the welfare state of socialist wet dreams is as impossible to maintain as a perpetual motion machine. though the tax monies of the people may be able to keep the people themselves afloat, the drag of maintaining the bureaucracy necessary to keep the whole thing running dooms it all to come to a crashing halt.

would u take assistance if down and out , i bet u would live under bridge 1st .
while i never lived under a bridge, i did spend quite some time living out of a van down by the river (in my case it was by the ocean, but you get my drift). though we struggled to make ends meet, we never sought government assistance and managed to survive through our own ingenuity and hard work. we connected with others in a similar situation and, through communal effort, we actually did quite well. maybe that's why i tend to agree more with the concepts of voluntary cooperation than the use of force advocated by the proponents of socialist ideology. i have seen first hand that willing collaboration works and that coercion is self-defeating, leading inevitably to slavery and destruction.

r u like rush...... yrs of demonizing the aclu but then he took their help .
please! even i am not such a self-important blowhard as limbaugh. :mrgreen:

the concept of an organization to protect our freedoms is a good one, the problem lies in how it has been managed and the agendas that seem to drive it. the aclu has become a clearinghouse for the petty grievances of every malcontent in the nation. their decidedly leftist bent and their penchant for championing the most ludicrous of causes has led them to become more of a hindrance to securing our freedoms than a force for meaningful change. this isn't to say that they don't occasionally do good work, but that their agenda driven policies tend to be counterproductive to the general welfare and seldom do much good even for the individual.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
to both of the above posts i can say nothing more than, "i agree wholeheartedly". all of mankind is loosely related and we should be willing to lend aid to those in need. the family of man, like any family, will have those who are in need of assistance as well as those who just refuse to help themselves. the analogy is limited, however, in that it excludes the use of force that all governments deem necessary in order to elicit that aid. the involuntary redistribution of wealth negates the concept of choice (freedom) and replaces is with threats of violence and incarceration (slavery).

i hope, miss m, that you can see the difference between what should be done and what must be done. by giving government the power to haphazardly redistribute our personal property we essentially give up our right to own anything. even as a whole, the people own nothing. it is the government that controls all goods and services and, with them, the destiny of the people. this might be all fine and dandy if the people were actually in control of government, but we know perfectly well that this just isn't the case.

i'm saying that welfare should be a temporary service employed only in the gravest of cases instead of the cradle to grave control that socialist ideals have been attempting to foist off on us for decades. the freedom to fail is just as important as the freedom to succeed. government bailouts, whether they are to individuals or to organizations, negate the fear of the risks that are necessary in order to succeed. without the fear of loss there is no limit to the amount of risk one is willing to take, since you know you won't be the one having to pay for it all should things go south. with government using the taxpayers' money to pay for every little mistake, there is soon nothing left to pay for the true business of government and they must dig deeper into our pockets just to keep things running.

the welfare state of socialist wet dreams is as impossible to maintain as a perpetual motion machine. though the tax monies of the people may be able to keep the people themselves afloat, the drag of maintaining the bureaucracy necessary to keep the whole thing running dooms it all to come to a crashing halt.

while i never lived under a bridge, i did spend quite some time living out of a van down by the river (in my case it was by the ocean, but you get my drift). though we struggled to make ends meet, we never sought government assistance and managed to survive through our own ingenuity and hard work. we connected with others in a similar situation and, through communal effort, we actually did quite well. maybe that's why i tend to agree more with the concepts of voluntary cooperation than the use of force advocated by the proponents of socialist ideology. i have seen first hand that willing collaboration works and that coercion is self-defeating, leading inevitably to slavery and destruction.

please! even i am not such a self-important blowhard as limbaugh. :mrgreen:

the concept of an organization to protect our freedoms is a good one, the problem lies in how it has been managed and the agendas that seem to drive it. the aclu has become a clearinghouse for the petty grievances of every malcontent in the nation. their decidedly leftist bent and their penchant for championing the most ludicrous of causes has led them to become more of a hindrance to securing our freedoms than a force for meaningful change. this isn't to say that they don't occasionally do good work, but that their agenda driven policies tend to be counterproductive to the general welfare and seldom do much good even for the individual.
Well, I can't give you more rep (which is retarded, imo)

but

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