Soldiers still in hiding, documentary on US veterans 1980's
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dstroy
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Man, I’d be in a totally different head space if I didn’t have access to mental health services. I’d probably be living in the woods too, if I didn’t have anyone to talk to who understood.
Even though services are better now, I still think they aren’t good enough, there are too many of us dying from suicide.
My panic disorder started a long time ago after my very first unrep, when I watched the dude in front of me on the P&D line almost get pulled clean through a chock after it wrapped around his leg. I’ll never forget that sound that his leg made when the ship listed to port and pulled that line taut while I was trying to cut it. Dislocated his leg, lucky he’s alive. We still talk sometimes but I don’t like to think about it too much. Talk about being confronted with your own mortality, a blink and it can be all gone.
That was just the first incident in a string of bizarre shit that went down on my first ship.
Then I went IA to Iraq to work on CIWS, I still have nightmares featuring that fucking air raid siren. Not telling anyone that I was having panic attacks regularly was a mistake, because they got so much worse. I learned how to act almost normal when they were happening because I saw other people’s careers get tanked for mental health issues. They say that there is no reprisal for seeking treatment but that’s bullshit.
Those fucks were smart too, sending mortars down where the choppers were flying in, in the air defense cutouts. Even when the cutouts were rotating, they moved around and setup fast to try and sneak in a few rounds.
Sometimes we were fast enough, sometimes we weren’t.
I’m thankful every day for what I have.
Even though services are better now, I still think they aren’t good enough, there are too many of us dying from suicide.
My panic disorder started a long time ago after my very first unrep, when I watched the dude in front of me on the P&D line almost get pulled clean through a chock after it wrapped around his leg. I’ll never forget that sound that his leg made when the ship listed to port and pulled that line taut while I was trying to cut it. Dislocated his leg, lucky he’s alive. We still talk sometimes but I don’t like to think about it too much. Talk about being confronted with your own mortality, a blink and it can be all gone.
That was just the first incident in a string of bizarre shit that went down on my first ship.
Then I went IA to Iraq to work on CIWS, I still have nightmares featuring that fucking air raid siren. Not telling anyone that I was having panic attacks regularly was a mistake, because they got so much worse. I learned how to act almost normal when they were happening because I saw other people’s careers get tanked for mental health issues. They say that there is no reprisal for seeking treatment but that’s bullshit.
Those fucks were smart too, sending mortars down where the choppers were flying in, in the air defense cutouts. Even when the cutouts were rotating, they moved around and setup fast to try and sneak in a few rounds.
Sometimes we were fast enough, sometimes we weren’t.
I’m thankful every day for what I have.
PetFlora
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I went into the Air Force to avoid the Viet Nam draft. I had fraternity brothers who came back and were never the same, mentally or emotionally; choosing slow suicide with massive quantities of drugs and alcohol
The worst part is these are bankster wars, about money, power, control of natural resources, and the fact they think of us a fodder to be used as they see fit
The worst part is these are bankster wars, about money, power, control of natural resources, and the fact they think of us a fodder to be used as they see fit
Sour Wreck
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trump is a piece of shit.
neosapien
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War is a fucked up thing. That fucks people up. I hope I never have to experience it as it is now. There are not many statistics available either but in 2012 more solders killed themselves than died in Iraq. I think it's one of those unspoken, unconfirmed truths that more Vietnam vets killed themselves after the war than died in it. Fucked up.
pabloesqobar
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PetFlora
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do you really think ANY president can stop the IMF and Military Industrial Complex? JFK wanted to expose the alien coverup. Look where it got him
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Singlemalt
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Partially. FDR did it in 1933, the US gov't officially fixed the exchange rate at $35/oz and nullified the right to demand payment in gold.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fdr-takes-united-states-off-gold-standard
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FDR takes United States off gold standard
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On June 5, 1933, the United States went off the gold standard, a monetary system in which currency is backed by gold, when Congress enacted a joint resolution nullifying the right of creditors to demand payment in gold. The United States had been on a gold standard since 1879, except for an embargo on gold exports during World War I, but bank failures during the Great Depression of the 1930s frightened the public into hoarding gold, making the policy untenable.
Soon after taking office in March 1933, Roosevelt declared a nationwide bank moratorium in order to prevent a run on the banks by consumers lacking confidence in the economy. He also forbade banks to pay out gold or to export it. According to Keynesian economic theory, one of the best ways to fight off an economic downturn is to inflate the money supply. And increasing the amount of gold held by the Federal Reserve would in turn increase its power to inflate the money supply. Facing similar pressures, Britain had dropped the gold standard in 1931, and Roosevelt had taken note.
On April 5, 1933, Roosevelt ordered all gold coins and gold certificates in denominations of more than $100 turned in for other money. It required all persons to deliver all gold coin, gold bullion and gold certificates owned by them to the Federal Reserve by May 1 for the set price of $20.67 per ounce. By May 10, the government had taken in $300 million of gold coin and $470 million of gold certificates. Two months later, a joint resolution of Congress abrogated the gold clauses in many public and private obligations that required the debtor to repay the creditor in gold dollars of the same weight and fineness as those borrowed. In 1934, the government price of gold was increased to $35 per ounce, effectively increasing the gold on the Federal Reserve’s balance sheets by 69 percent. This increase in assets allowed the Federal Reserve to further inflate the money supply.
The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon announced that the United States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, thus completely abandoning the gold standard. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation that permitted Americans again to own gold bullion.
My dad was born in 1925 and his family had a tradition that newborns got a gold coin upon birth. In '33 FDR took over the gold exchange and all citizens had to cash out all non jewelry gold (coins, bullion, certificates). My grandfather refused to cash out his kids coins and hid them. I buried Dad with his coin.
Potmetal
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My uncle always used to say that the war won't end until you die. Dad and the other old fuckers just nodded their heads and agreed. I didn't understand what he meant until I went. That shit is a permafuck with your head. My circle is pretty small. Every man in it has either been, or is a blood relative. It's not a paranoid thing, it's a "I trust these sick heads with my security" thing.
ttystikk
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Carter didn't drop one bomb the whole team he was in office.
Any president can do it, as long as s/he has the support of the People.
We need to separate the money from its ability to influence politics.