SOG + Flushing?

What do you do when you have 6 plants in a hydro setup and only 2 are ready to flush?

if you have no way of separating the plants i would wait until the other plants are ready.

its perpetual....

l3ored said:

its perpetual....

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OOPS!

Go buy another bucket for the 2 thats ready to flush. I'm not sure why you came here to ask a simple question like that. COMMON SENSE

Well if i have a cab thats filled with 1 res, i cant go and stick another one in there, can i?? Would it be ok to flush the whole thing for a week and nute up again after harvest?

Did you over fertilize your plants?

Most people on this site running a true hydro SOG set up will not flush unless there has been nute burn/over fert...

The buds put on a lot of their weight on those last 2 weeks... it seems foolish to me to starve them when they are using the most nutrients...

Flushing is more of a way to clean your soil from nutrient build up...

Do some research... you will find that proper cure is the solution to any harshness, not flushing in a hydro set up...

But hey.. who am I and what the fuck do I know... right?

Go with what you know brother, but I am telling you are creating an unnecessary complication for yourself....

Best of luck...

GypsyBush said:

Did you over fertilize your plants?

Most people on this site running a true hydro SOG set up will not flush unless there has been nute burn/over fert...

The buds put on a lot of their weight on those last 2 weeks... it seems foolish to me to starve them when they are using the most nutrients...

Flushing is more of a way to clean your soil from nutrient build up...

Do some research... you will find that proper cure is the solution to any harshness, not flushing in a hydro set up...

But hey.. who am I and what the fuck do I know... right?

Go with what you know brother, but I am telling you are creating an unnecessary complication for yourself....

Best of luck...

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The last week flush is to lessen the taste of ferts, otherwise the bud comes out really harsh and youre just smoking your nutrients.

to the op, you will need to find a way to remove those two plants from your other plants rez. in a sog you want each cycle with its own rez because the nute needs for plants changes over time. Week one and two for instance take a weak solution, but week 4 and 5 take a stronger one. this is something you will need to work out. i would not recommend flushing plants that are still developing, this will slow or stop growth. best of luck.

ideit said:

The last week flush is to lessen the taste of ferts, otherwise the bud comes out really harsh and youre just smoking your nutrients.

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If you aren't over-fertilizing in the first place, there is no need to flush in hydro. As already stated, the last 2 weeks is when the buds put on 25% of their total weight. Why starve them and negatively affect your yield?

I want to believe gypsy but i think idiet is right. That means I need 2 pumps for aero or step down to dwc.

ideit said:

The last week flush is to lessen the taste of ferts, otherwise the bud comes out really harsh and youre just smoking your nutrients..

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whatever... prove it... I smoke my buds and they are not harsh AT ALL...

JohnnyPotSeed1969 said:

If you aren't over-fertilizing in the first place, there is no need to flush in hydro. As already stated, the last 2 weeks is when the buds put on 25% of their total weight. Why starve them and negatively affect your yield?

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l3ored said:

I want to believe gypsy but i think idiet is right. That means I need 2 pumps for aero or step down to dwc.

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Dude.. believe yourself... do the test and prove it...

I did... I know... I am not here for hype...

Go with what you know...

Here's my 1/2 cents Im on my 3rd harvest, Ive flushed all 3 times. Each time Ive probly did it to soon (8, 9, 8 weeks) all 3 times I felt it was a MISTAKE, but Im just learning. ABF does not flush and next time, Im not going to flush either.

I was always under the impression that flushing was a mandatory thing to remove the nutes from the bud, if I'm wrong I appologize, but why would this be such a common thing if there was no benefit to it? (even the AN calculator demands one full week of 0ppm)

If not flushing will result in more bud, I'm all for it, though I have taste tested some premature bud and it felt like I was smoking chemicals. My ppm throughout the life of my plants ranges from 600 up to about 1000, more or less depending on their uptake.

I wasn't aware ABF didn't flush, I'd like to give this more research, can anyone recommend some reads?

ideit said:

I wasn't aware ABF didn't flush, I'd like to give this more research, can anyone recommend some reads?

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Al's threads are a good place to start....

I have the finickiest friend when it comes to flushing... he will not even smoke yours.... cause he doesn't know if you flushed right or not...

So he came over a and smoked some of mine and then started bragging about how he taught me to flush right.. it was obvious by how smooth it was...

No flush all cure... his jaw dropped... but he kept smoking....

I do believe flushing comes from soil grows, where the fertilizer will build up in the soil, and needs to be flushed out....

But whatever... evryone is different...

I for one am a dumbass.. so please don't listen to me...
Do your own research...

Cheers...

thanks a lot gypsy, i really appreciate your input.

GypsyBush said:

No flush all cure...

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How long do you cure for? I remember ABF had a dryer that dried his in about 3 days, I built mine based off his. So if he doesn't cure and doesn't flush but still gets smooth smokes, well it's got me thinking.

What are your ppms like your last two weeks?

I'll go re-read up on some of Al's stuff...

I'm fascinated by this flushing subject. ABF says he doesnt flush. Stinkbud says flushing triggers something in the plants that help them finish.

I've been flushing for a week or two each time. I love the idea, because it saves money on nutrients. yeah, I'm that cheap. I'm going to run nutrients the entire time for a crop or two, just to see if there is a difference. The leaves on the flushed plants do turn all sorts of colors though, which means that the plants are sucking nutients from the leaves, which is good right? Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe the leaves are just turning color because they dont have the proper nutrients and are starving.

Supposedly, a proper cure will get rid of anything bad that people dont enjoy smoking, shit if I Know, I try to grow, dry and cure correctly, but it's a crapshoot and everyone has different oppinions.

what I really want, is an educated argument for flushing, that would convice me that it's needed.

Oh, and for all you proponents of NOT flushing (gypsy) try flushing one harvest, and see if your yields really suffer or not, with a perpetual, a couple grams shouldnt break your heart if it doesnt work.

If my op was more consistant, I'd try a flush/non-flush scenario to see what the weight difference is, but I'm not to that level yet.

This is fun.

Right with ya Yak, I've always flushed for about a week, would love to compare the two side by side, and may do it eventually, but I just dont want to risk it right now, i'm just finishing a recovery from a dead mother which set me back quite a ways.