So Illinois SB 1381 What Us With This

Kant

Kant

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GreenGiant81 said:
I really need to take a class on the whole legislative branch of the gov because Im clueless on how laws get passed well at least the detail processes. So the SB 1381 is scheduled for a second reading... what this means I am clueless. Can someone break this shiznit down? here is a link to the bill

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=SB&DocNum=1381&GAID=10&SessionID=76&LegID=42617
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basicly what this means is that a bill was introduced to the senate, First a small committee of legislators review and amend it. After that they vote on it. If it passes then it goes to the full senate(that's where this bill is now). When it's there it gets read, discussed and debated. Eventually it will get voted on. If it passes the full senate it moves to the house. However there is an identical bill in the house (speeds up the processes). In the house basically the bill goes through the same process (this version of the bill has also reached the full house stage). Once both the house and the senate pass the bill it goes to the governor to be sign/vetoed.
 
DULLAH

DULLAH

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GREAT NEWS !
Just passed the IL state senate !!!

Now it goes to the House
Our state house currently has:

70 Democrats
48 Republicans

Shouldn't be a problem to get it thru the house. Our Governor, Pat Quinn, is a liberal democrat from Oak Park (1st suburb from the westside of Chi). I assume he will sign it into LAW.

Must read all the details and conditions of the bill !!!
:hump::hump::hump:
 
FilthyFletch

FilthyFletch

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Quinn and democartes suick so bad but maybe they will do some good for once but that basterd quinn will tax the hell out of it for growers lol lets hope it passes then we can purge the dms out and drop all these taxes they keep killing us with as the dems have sure screwed up this stae and built a hole we may never get out of
 
dk173

dk173

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when this passes im going to get high as hell and the funny part if a cop sees u and u have a card they cant do nothing
 
Ronjohn7779

Ronjohn7779

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DULLAH said:
GREAT NEWS !
Just passed the IL state senate !!!

Now it goes to the House
Our state house currently has:

70 Democrats
48 Republicans

Shouldn't be a problem to get it thru the house. Our Governor, Pat Quinn, is a liberal democrat from Oak Park (1st suburb from the westside of Chi). I assume he will sign it into LAW.

Must read all the details and conditions of the bill !!!
:hump::hump::hump:
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Yes Pat Quinn is a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT, but he's a chicago/IL liberal democrat. Our state's "Liberal" yet we don't get any of the benefits of being a liberal state...well we get the high taxes.... For the most part the only real liberals in Chicago/IL politics are the Black Politicians.

You have to remember 99% of these politicians in IL say they're liberal's just to get people to vote for them. Some especially in Chicago (Mayor Daley looking at you...) are only democrats to capture the black vote. None of our liberal politician are truly liberal.

Hell George Bush celebrated a landmark birthday (his 60th birthday) in Chicago hanging out with one of his best buddies Mayor Daley (Bush could have had a party with dignitaries or people of his own Party) instead he celebrated it in Chicago one of the most "liberal" cities in America and in one of the most historic "liberal" states in America....
Don't believe me read this...Also I use to wait tables down town and from what I heard through the grape vines was that Bush and Daley had one rowdy night of drinking...I highly doubt Bush met up with "opinion leaders". LOL what a joke.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/07/bush_turns_60_today_birthday_d.html
 
GreenGiant81

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FilthyFletch said:
Quinn and democartes suick so bad but maybe they will do some good for once but that basterd quinn will tax the hell out of it for growers lol lets hope it passes then we can purge the dms out and drop all these taxes they keep killing us with as the dems have sure screwed up this stae and built a hole we may never get out of
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This almost has to pass because the state of illinois is in a 11 billion dollar deficit. The labor market is growing and the Job supply is shrinking. The gov. spoke of raising income taxes however this will only go so far due to the fact that the unemployment rate is increasing. It is actually a life saver to tax products with an inelastic demand meaning if prices go up consumption doesnt work in the reverse. We can see this with tobacco products the state is taxing the hell out of them but people are still smoking. This will be the same case with marijuana it is potentially a huge source for taxes on the consumer and business side of the table. In my opinion I really dont see why this will not pass the state is desperate to close that deficit.
 
joker152

joker152

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illinois is just now passing a medical marijuana law? jesus christ i always thought illinois was a really progressive state.......
 
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Evil Intent 51

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the next hearing is set for november 30 so everybody keep their ears out. they have messed with it a little bit and changed the definition of a debilitated condition, i dont know what to but they changed it. back problems and headaches though are all debilitating as long as they get in the way of everyday life. Good luck SB 1381. see ya on the other side
 
AllAboutIt

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(fingers crossed) :roll: o plz plz plz..i never thought having advanced glacoma(in 1 eye) would make me sooooo happy :bigjoint: Quinn will sign it and in 60-90 days we will all no longer be seen as "potheads" and instead as just a normal person treating our symptoms, just like all those people getting a new bottles of pills every week.

there has been several amendments added to the bill but dont worry they are on our side this time
 
Vr6T

Vr6T

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Ohh god I hope this passes. I think my back is starting to hurt too much to live with. :mrgreen:
 
password351

password351

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If this passes will we have to wait for mmj clinics to start popping and see a mmj dr? or could i go to lets say, bromenn hospital and get a prescription.
 
Kant

Kant

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Vr6T said:
Ohh god I hope this passes. I think my back is starting to hurt too much to live with. :mrgreen:
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password351 said:
If this passes will we have to wait for mmj clinics to start popping and see a mmj dr? or could i go to lets say, bromenn hospital and get a prescription.
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Well unfortunately the bill is pretty conservative. No there won't be clinics or dispensaries. You have to get a permit from the state health department and there's a limited list of who qualifies and a limited number of people allowed in the program.

If you qualify and get in then you have to grow your own and are limited to something like 6 plants and a 60 day supply of dried cannabis.
 
AllAboutIt

AllAboutIt

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If you qualify and get in then you have to grow your own and are limited to something like 6 plants and a 60 day supply of dried cannabis
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The language of the bill is being "looked over" to determine what a practical amount for a patients use in a 60 day period could be(the average per state to state is about 4 ounces, I also doubt they will limit the amount of people who can get the card, you will be able to go to a doctor even the "real doctor" you go to now, and if said doctor has cause to provide you with a recommendation to use cannabis to treat your symptoms as it says in the bill (not word for word but) pretty much if you get a headache once in a while then you wont get a card ONLY if your condition affects your day to day life,there attempt to structure the bill in this way may alienate some but will not keep out all the non medical patience. This will also be a trial period of 3 years any negative affects after 3 years will be taken into account when it is voted on again and be made permanent law. Please read the bill and keep your ear to the street and inform the ignorant
 
Kant

Kant

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AllAboutIt said:
The language of the bill is being "looked over" to determine what a practical amount for a patients use in a 60 day period could be(the average per state to state is about 4 ounces, I also doubt they will limit the amount of people who can get the card, you will be able to go to a doctor even the "real doctor" you go to now, and if said doctor has cause to provide you with a recommendation to use cannabis to treat your symptoms as it says in the bill (not word for word but) pretty much if you get a headache once in a while then you wont get a card ONLY if your condition affects your day to day life,there attempt to structure the bill in this way may alienate some but will not keep out all the non medical patience. This will also be a trial period of 3 years any negative affects after 3 years will be taken into account when it is voted on again and be made permanent law. Please read the bill and keep your ear to the street and inform the ignorant
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well your illness only qualifies if it is on a specific list of illnesses

(b) "Debilitating medical condition" means one or more of
17 the following:
18 (1) cancer, glaucoma, positive status for human
19 immunodeficiency virus, acquired immune deficiency
20 syndrome, hepatitis C, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis,
21 Crohn's disease, agitation of Alzheimer's disease, nail
22 patella, or the treatment of these conditions;
23 (2) a chronic or debilitating disease or medical
24 condition or its treatment that produces one or more of the
25 following: cachexia or wasting syndrome; severe pain;
26 severe nausea; seizures, including but not limited to those

1 characteristic of epilepsy; or severe and persistent
2 muscle spasms, including but not limited to those
3 characteristic of multiple sclerosis; or
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http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=76&GA=96&DocTypeId=HB&DocNum=2514&GAID=10&LegID=44766&SpecSess=&Session=

this is the house version.
 
naked gardener

naked gardener

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~~~YAY ILLINOIS!!!!!!!! GREAT FOR GROWING CORN, SOY AND MJ!!

IT IS ABOUT TIME!! NOV 30 will be another day of victory for medical cannibas...so happy to hear this news~thanks for the thread!!

I'm trying to feel optimistic~in 3 yrs after the bill has passed and the reviews come in on all the benefits, they will hopefully LOOSEN restrictions--but this is a good start and is better than nothing, for those suffering in illinois...
 
studentofwar

studentofwar

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Just curious if you mispelled "democartes" by accident or on purpose? The later would have been quite clever if so intended.
 
greenearth5

greenearth5

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Do you guys/gals think illinois will pass this and legaize medical marijuan? Or is it going to be defeated in the house or vetoed by the gov?
 
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