Ok I am using clone x (gel) so far so good.. with rockwool inside my "prop-o-gator" its one of those things you can fit a nice size turkey in it. i mist with ph'd water at a piss yellow color.(color when tested) and i misted once with .5 mL Botanicare power plant mixed with water in sprayer bottle, they are doing very nice. soon they will strong rooted enough for me to transplant and then do a small Sog, thats the idea anyways