Mr. Bongwater
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i swear i got worse anxiety since my last shroom trip, is this possible? i'm hoping its just in my head
shrooms and anxiety??
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New Age United
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My buddy Kevin got bad anxiety attacks for about a good 6 months after a bad trip. Don't mean to scare you but if it persists talk to your doctor I know he said his medication helped. I wouldn't do shrooms again until you know whether or not it's the mushrooms it definitely is a possibility.
Mr. Bongwater
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god damn it
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I had a very profound mushroom trip years ago and, like you, took too much and without the proper respect. I ate them in the morning, on an empty stomach and without clear thoughts. That was the day, at age 25, the mushrooms taught me that someday I will die.
We will all die. That knowledge, I believe, is what makes you an adult. This was very scary for me.
I had a hard time using cannabis for a while after. It was too introspective. That passed but every time I took mushrooms FOR YEARS after that I was reminded of my own mortality. This was very scary for me. I had two trips to Jamaica compromised due to the mushrooms telling me I wasn't quite ready to meet them again yet. Thousands and thousands of dollars spent to come home frightened.
Years and years later I now feel a need to "reset me" and I'm hoping the mushrooms appreciate me more now than they did when I was young and brash. I am willing to accept and listen and accept my own mortality. I hope they meet me half-way...
tl:dr - Yep, 'shrooms will fuck up your head. Might pass, might take a while. Maybe you should learn from it?
We will all die. That knowledge, I believe, is what makes you an adult. This was very scary for me.
I had a hard time using cannabis for a while after. It was too introspective. That passed but every time I took mushrooms FOR YEARS after that I was reminded of my own mortality. This was very scary for me. I had two trips to Jamaica compromised due to the mushrooms telling me I wasn't quite ready to meet them again yet. Thousands and thousands of dollars spent to come home frightened.
Years and years later I now feel a need to "reset me" and I'm hoping the mushrooms appreciate me more now than they did when I was young and brash. I am willing to accept and listen and accept my own mortality. I hope they meet me half-way...
tl:dr - Yep, 'shrooms will fuck up your head. Might pass, might take a while. Maybe you should learn from it?
Mr. Bongwater
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what medication did he use, u know? most of those of have ass nasty side effects, but i honestly think i just learned something extremely important from that last shroom trip, spiritually
New Age United
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No I'm not sure but will try to find out for you.
because having anxiety attacks after doing shrooms isnt a nasty side effect?
lol
just sayin
you probably dont need medication, if you weren't prone to severe anxiety before shrooms you just need to do a little CBT and relaxation and lay off the shrooms for a bit
till you can focus positively on yourself and return back to normal
eat properly, get some exercise , and when you do have an attack remeber to stop and smell the roses
breathe in (as if youre smelling a flower)
breathe out
it'll help.
theres some common myths between prescription pills. while i dont advocate for them. most anxiety medication is used incorrectly.Often doctors will prescribe things like xanax, and the user becomes not only addicted and abuses such medication they dont try to fix their anxiety themselves.
what doctors should be prescribing is medications that take time to build up in the system to stop anxiety, it takes longer, its a hard process, but its a safer and better process, along with these prescription meds anyone suffering from anxiety should go into CBT therapy
till you can focus positively on yourself and return back to normal
eat properly, get some exercise , and when you do have an attack remeber to stop and smell the roses
breathe in (as if youre smelling a flower)
breathe out
it'll help.
theres some common myths between prescription pills. while i dont advocate for them. most anxiety medication is used incorrectly.Often doctors will prescribe things like xanax, and the user becomes not only addicted and abuses such medication they dont try to fix their anxiety themselves.
what doctors should be prescribing is medications that take time to build up in the system to stop anxiety, it takes longer, its a hard process, but its a safer and better process, along with these prescription meds anyone suffering from anxiety should go into CBT therapy
Mr. Bongwater
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thanks for the advice sunni, i really needed to see this, whats CBT though?
abe supercro
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Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) is a form of psychotherapy. It was originally designed to treat depression, but is now used for a number of mental disorders.
It works to solve current problems and change unhelpful thinking and behavior. The name refers to behavior therapy, cognitive therapy, and therapy based upon a combination of basic behavioral and cognitive principles. Most therapists working with patients dealing with anxiety and depression use a blend of cognitive and behavioral therapy. This technique acknowledges that there may be behaviors that cannot be controlled through rational thought, but rather emerge based on prior conditioning from the environment and other external and/or internal stimuli. CBT is "problem focused" (undertaken for specific problems) and "action oriented" (therapist tries to assist the client in selecting specific strategies to help address those problems), or directive in its therapeutic approach. It is different from the more traditional, psychoanalytical approach, where therapists look for the unconscious meaning behind the behaviors and then diagnose the patient. Instead, behaviorists believe that disorders, such as depression, have to do with the relationship between a feared stimulus and an avoidance response, resulting in a conditioned fear, much likeIvan Pavlov. Cognitive therapists believed that conscious thoughts could influence a person’s behavior all on its own. Ultimately, the two theories were combined to create what is now known as cognitive behavioral therapy.
CBT is effective for a variety of conditions, including mood, anxiety, personality, eating, addiction, dependence, tic, and psychotic disorders.
read more here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy
It works to solve current problems and change unhelpful thinking and behavior. The name refers to behavior therapy, cognitive therapy, and therapy based upon a combination of basic behavioral and cognitive principles. Most therapists working with patients dealing with anxiety and depression use a blend of cognitive and behavioral therapy. This technique acknowledges that there may be behaviors that cannot be controlled through rational thought, but rather emerge based on prior conditioning from the environment and other external and/or internal stimuli. CBT is "problem focused" (undertaken for specific problems) and "action oriented" (therapist tries to assist the client in selecting specific strategies to help address those problems), or directive in its therapeutic approach. It is different from the more traditional, psychoanalytical approach, where therapists look for the unconscious meaning behind the behaviors and then diagnose the patient. Instead, behaviorists believe that disorders, such as depression, have to do with the relationship between a feared stimulus and an avoidance response, resulting in a conditioned fear, much likeIvan Pavlov. Cognitive therapists believed that conscious thoughts could influence a person’s behavior all on its own. Ultimately, the two theories were combined to create what is now known as cognitive behavioral therapy.
CBT is effective for a variety of conditions, including mood, anxiety, personality, eating, addiction, dependence, tic, and psychotic disorders.
read more here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy
Mr. Bongwater
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its all good
Mr. Bongwater
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@sunni
i had a anxiety attack during the trip which caused to me have a anxiety attack on monday about the same thing when i smoked weed, i believe I've recovered from it by now and back to normal (and it even seems like my ocd is gone which i had in the first place) so i was wondering would u think it'd be a good idea to take a small dose like 1 - 1.5 grams in a month or two? with a good environment this time, almost seems like the heavy ass dose brought the bad anxiety attack, do u think i should never touch shrooms again?
i had a anxiety attack during the trip which caused to me have a anxiety attack on monday about the same thing when i smoked weed, i believe I've recovered from it by now and back to normal (and it even seems like my ocd is gone which i had in the first place) so i was wondering would u think it'd be a good idea to take a small dose like 1 - 1.5 grams in a month or two? with a good environment this time, almost seems like the heavy ass dose brought the bad anxiety attack, do u think i should never touch shrooms again?
sounds like panic attacks not anxiety attacks
anxiety is constant, everyday
panic happens sporadically or in specific situations where as anxiety is a constant battle
ocd doesnt just go away lol fyi
i think you should do whatever you feel like doing, would i personally continue to do a drug when it obviously gives me an attack no. but thats me, do you want to attempt to try and push your luck its up to you.
i think the good environment situation isnt for people who are experiencing anxiety.
a good environment is just someplace where you cant physically get hurt, or trip yourself out mentally
a bad environment for said things would be like...a haunted house for adults.
having an attack in an uncontrolled situation just seems like a bad idea. youre unable mentally to stop yourself from having an attack because you cannot think clearly as you are on drugs.
youll get plenty of opinions from people who have no idea what true anxiety or panic attacks are and they will tell you to suck it up and that its all in your head and you can push through and i say dont believe them, i suffered from anxiety and agoraphobia for over 15 some years of my life. i havent had an attack in years because i was able to stop having them.
Ive done ridiculous amounts of research on anxiety, im not saying my way is the best way, im saying that people dont understand anxiety and will often push people to do things because they dont actually understand or sympathize with sufferers. And that can be dangerous
Mr. Bongwater
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i'm 100% i have it though and i swear yesterday and today i haven't any ocd urges like usual, and on erowid it says shrooms can make mental illness worse or bring it out but it doesn't say it on the acid page, and i coincidentally had panic attacks after taking shrooms which i never experienced before in my life but with acid i was fine lol, u think mental risks go for both?
ocd wouldnt just stop , thats not how it works.
erowid is a pretty decent all together well rounded website but because its user based i have to question of ontop and relevant their medical information is at all times.
which means plenty of information and constant research isnt imputed to their website on a monthly or yearly basis
if youre afraid/concerned youll have another attack than dont do shrooms, is it really going to be the end of the world if you dont continue to use them?
abe supercro
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bong didn't you eat nearly a quarter ounce?
no that was me who ate the quarter
and threw up
i posted that in his shroom thread
Mr. Bongwater
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no i have intent on doing shrooms again after it switched gears on me like it did last time, it was absolute insanity i can't put into words how horrible i felt, its like the misery had no limit, i had a bad trip on acid and it was NOTHING compared to that, and acid never made me feel fucked for like over a week afterwards, so i think i might try acid again if i can in a few months time, its a relaxing energetic controllable trip, unlike shrooms which i found was downright over whelming craziness, but walking outside warped out of it on a windy night on shrooms was absolutely extraordinary, i'll give it that.
my friend ate 7 grams the night i ate 2.5 grams and handled it like a champ, blows my mind, he said he was walking at one point and couldn't see where the hell he was walking to so he had to sit down and relax for a bit lol
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im sorry you experienced that it sucks
anxiety /panic attacks are terrible in a "manageable state"- Status
