Shnkrmn gets wet: 2010 Ebb and Grow multiple Strains

I have reached the end of hempy and transplanted most of my material to my new CAP ebb and grow system. Here's how things look:
Well, after a long weekend of pinched fingers and a sore back, I have my ebb and grow assembled, tested and running.








Don't the Moms look proud! I know I am.

I have switched from Fox Farms to Dyna-gro Foliage pro for my veg fert. It has a goodly amount of magnesium, so I have yet to see whether I will need to add a cal-mag supplement. The Foliage Pro is very clean and doesn't knock your pH way down like the Fox Farms does.

Everything looks good. Thanks for the heads up at your other site...I'm pulling up a chair and a bowl

peace
cof

curious old fart said:

Everything looks good. Thanks for the heads up at your other site...I'm pulling up a chair and a bowl

peace
cof

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I'll try not to disappoint! Enjoy!

Nothing has died yet!

Plants are definitely greening up (the ones that were deficient).

My one issue is with keeping pH in my res stable. I started out 5 days ago with 45 gallons of RO water, added Foliage Pro to 480ppm and pHed it to 5.8. After the first flood the solution read 6.2. That seems to happen every flood. I'm a little sketched about whether to chase it hard to keep it down or let it float and just adjust if it gets REALLY out of whack. I just dunno.

I'm thinking of flowering my moms. They are in the way, and since I have new genetics I'm not going to preserve them. It's a bagseed clone line that I've been growing for almost 3 years now. I have two Afghan Kush seedlings and some A-train and Chronic and a bunch of freebies that I haven't germed yet. I have to figure out a game plan going forward.

Go for it, as large as those mom's are the yield should be huge!!!

peace
cof

shnkrmn said:

Nothing has died yet!

Plants are definitely greening up (the ones that were deficient).

My one issue is with keeping pH in my res stable. I started out 5 days ago with 45 gallons of RO water, added Foliage Pro to 480ppm and pHed it to 5.8. After the first flood the solution read 6.2. That seems to happen every flood. I'm a little sketched about whether to chase it hard to keep it down or let it float and just adjust if it gets REALLY out of whack. I just dunno.

I'm thinking of flowering my moms. They are in the way, and since I have new genetics I'm not going to preserve them. It's a bagseed clone line that I've been growing for almost 3 years now. I have two Afghan Kush seedlings and some A-train and Chronic and a bunch of freebies that I haven't germed yet. I have to figure out a game plan going forward.

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I'd try to keep it in the 5.6-6.0 range; I have the same issue of pH always rising (initially, generally settles after a coupla days), so if I'm "shooting" for 5.6, I'll pH it to 5.4, and then once it gets up to 5.8, I'll take it down to 5.4 again.

I try to keep it in that +/-.2 window - I find that problems start developing when my pH gets above 6.0 and stays there for a couple of days.

Followed ya through hempy......im here for the hydro
Pulling up a chair shnkrmn
- Lilmafia513

lilmafia513 said:

Followed ya through hempy......im here for the hydro
Pulling up a chair shnkrmn
- Lilmafia513

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TY bro. This could be a long one. I'm gonna get an update out soon. long range plans, etc. . . .

I'm still finishing flowering ten hempy plants


I cut a sample, looks like another couple weeks. I'm done feeding them in any case.


My mothers have been in flower since Saturday, they are already stretching big time.

On the ebb and grow side of things, I removed the 8 plants that were transplanted from hempy into the buckets. They were marginal at best and after 7 days, I removed one from the bucket and there really hadn't been any root growth at all. When I looked at the rest of them, same story. The roots were pretty much dead. So I kept the 4 that were transplanted from DWC; they all have roots poking out of the bottom of the buckets now and show a little new growth. I don't have them dialed in yet but they are enough to break in the new system while I make some new plants.

The plant in the background is one more mother that I transplanted to dirt (Why? I don't know). I'm just letting her have two more weeks to grow roots in the tub and then she's flowering too.


And that brings me to my next decision:
What to do????????????


I gotta germinate one or the other of these packs; A-train or Chronic? I'm leaning toward the A-train.

shnkrmn said:

On the ebb and grow side of things, I removed the 8 plants that were transplanted from hempy into the buckets. They were marginal at best and after 7 days, I removed one from the bucket and there really hadn't been any root growth at all. When I looked at the rest of them, same story. The roots were pretty much dead. So I kept the 4 that were transplanted from DWC; they all have roots poking out of the bottom of the buckets now and show a little new growth. I don't have them dialed in yet but they are enough to break in the new system while I make some new plants.

The plant in the background is one more mother that I transplanted to dirt (Why? I don't know). I'm just letting her have two more weeks to grow roots in the tub and then she's flowering too.

And that brings me to my next decision:
What to do????????????

I gotta germinate one or the other of these packs; A-train or Chronic? I'm leaning toward the A-train.

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You should take a look at SmokingRubber's grow journal - he's growing A-Train, could probably give you some good insight into it.

Bob Smith said:

You should take a look at SmokingRubber's grow journal - he's growing A-Train, could probably give you some good insight into it.

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He says he likes it, but his journal's mostly caught up with that blue hash plant he's running. Wish I'd gotten that too! I've gotta ask hiim about height.

Just fimmed my two AKs. If they get going I may get a bunch of clones from those before I get any beans on line.

I meant to mention, too, that bud I cut from one of my flowering plants has a bunch of bananas on it. That's one of the reasons I didn't want to grow this again (careless cloning). However, the last run of this, while loaded with bananas, did not produce a single seed. Still, this is the last of it. NO MORE BAGSEED!!!!

whats up Bro-mosexual? i just read you trashed some plants. do you still have the recipe succes kit that came with your system? before you trash another plant from root issues look into using the root 66, i am not into snake oils but that shit, after all the root rot i had in my life makes roots explode. its meant for transplanting but if you have roots that died off or went dry a good dunking of that root solution will fix it all up in 5 days. you can cause major stress from just moving RW clones into clay buckets, a good dip of your clones right before you put them into the syste, is great, also after i see new clones roots i apply some. my miracle tonic for fast establishing root systems is thrive alive and the root66

I was wondering about that stuff. I just put the whole box away saying don't mess with a 'recipe for success' no way!

The roots on them were dry, brittle and, most alarmingly, showing some soft patches. The last thing I want to do is wrestle with root rot before I even get going. I still have a big enough mother that I could have new rooted clones of good size in there in two weeks, but I'm happy just running the 4 vigorous plants for now. There won't be any trashing of them. They all have 15=30 root hairs poking out of the bottom of the buckets and new foliage has resumed as well. I'll definitely check out the roots 66 next time I transplant. I use an aerocloner, so my plants go in bare-rooted, which probably makes them even more vulnerable to shock. It's the ones that went from a medium (perlite) to the buckets that didn't like it. The aero to DWC to bucket plants went fine.

Another side note on why I'm willing to run less plants right now; I live in an old section of town and the city is going to tear up my street this summer and put in new utilities and sidewalks. They will also be putting new water and sewer service into MY BASEMENT!!!! That comes into my house right next to my flowering plants, lol.
So I'm trying to get my activity timed so I'm in a down period, at least flowering-wise, when that work takes place. As you can imagine with any large construction project, getting a specific date when they want access to my space isn't happening. I figure I'm going to be undisturbed until April, and then things may have to get broken down, colonize a guest bedroom for a week or so, who knows? I've already had a dress rehearsal for totally breaking down my op last month when I let the city install a radio=read water meter in the same place. That was like a 6 hour job so a plulmber could come in for ten minutes.

Anyway, I have to flower those 4 plants soon because of the above; I would let them veg a little larger otherwise.

This business can get complicated.

Thanks for joining my journal, Morris. I need all the ebb and grow experience I can get.

I decided to try fimming the AKs. I usually just torture my plants into shape Gotta get some clones from them asap.

The 4 plants in the E&G are moving along. I topped up the res with pHd water and ppms are at 400. I'm changing the res in 8 days. I'll raise up the dose then. One plant, the lower right one, is showing no roots out of the bottom of the bucket, but since it's green, and growing as fast or faster than the others, I'm not concerned.

hey, sometimes roots dont make it to the bottom, the first run ever i had bluecheese that didnt sit in the water, basically air pruned, but they had insane root systems inside the inner bucket and finsihed at 4ft

Yea, it's fine. I'm surprised they aren't all like that. They are still in netpots under the hydroton and the long 'beard' of roots that came out of the hydro I kind of spread out as best I could when I put them in the buckets. Maybe I should have sheared them back? Eh, it'll all work out.

If you haven't checked out my hempy thread, that's where I'm documenting the flowering of my last hempy mothers to avoid confusion. There's going to be serious weight there.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/146550-shnkrmns-pickle-bucket-hempy-grow.html

if i was you, i would germ all those seeds throw them in hempys, select the most vigorous for moms and flower the rest, i prefer to keep moms in hemps for atleast 6 months. or if the timing is right you can wash off the perlite and toss them in the EG, works like a charm

that makes more sense than my plan. I will pop them all. the upcoming city project is eroding my decisiveness.