Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana News' started by Sexxxy Beast, Dec 11, 2009.
the best outdoor will own the best indoor
i've been growing for a few years. i saw 100 pounds of different weed this year. i could not tell which was which. yes, some of it is obvious. but some of the outdoor train wreck i saw this year could easily pass as top shelf indoor.
how come EVERY time i sell to a club the first thing they ask is "is this indoor or outdoor?"
Yup. Never in 14 years since moving from NorCal to SD have friends called me to help them move something. They never even had to leave their house before. Their friends would pick up 2-4p's at a time. Now they're calling me to move a couple P's to SoCal. It's really not worth it for me even if I can make $1000 for that trip. Something always goes wrong. Always. This is a flaky stingy business.
It's a lot of work to crack in dude. And I'm really fucking good at sales.
I'm in commercial real estate and was lucky enough to help two dispensaries find places to lease. I got a pretty hip client base willing to lease to these guys. It gave me an easy in. Currently I'm not working with them at the level I want but as they grow so should I.
New dispensaries want to offer variety but cannot buy 2p's of ever strain. Some offer up to 30 or more strains. They start out buying little QP's...$900.
You are not going to get rich that is for sure.
Edit- Like someone else said. Kush's are the ticket down here. Everyone smokes indica's in SoCal. I have about 5 dudes that have been growing for years up north. They all grow hybrids cause that's the market up there.
I did just meet with a new dispensary in SoCal. He said there client base is 35 years and older. They all want hybrids.
my buddy has grown since the 70's and has made all sorts of drugs. Hes been growing since mercury vapor. He grows both outdoor and indoor he says there is defiantly a difference. How do you explain that outdoor is so much cheaper? If its the same then the cost would be the same. Even now I can get $3400 for grade A indoor weed. Dispensaries ask me specifically for "A+++ Indoor" for a reason. Obcourse any "outdoor" grower would say that there is no difference cuz they want to sell their product, and I suppose if it gets you high it gets you high! But seriously bugs, dirt, mold, smog, ozone are all factors in an outdoor weed.
Anyway dispensaries sell many more times the dope then a drug dealer sells, and its not just dope, its candies, cookies, doggie weed, seeds, clones, pipes, joints, just everything! I agree that business probably isnt as good as it was before due to alot of people loosing their jobs but the ones I know do make millions, i promise you. Thats why there are over 100 dispensaries in LA alone!.
Lets do the math, if a dispensary sells 1/2 a pound a day at retail (which is about double the wholesale price) $6000, for 365 days a year that ends up to be.... 1,095,000 in pot alone gross, imagine how much they get for the other products.
To make $100k per run you'd need 100lbs of A+ weed and someone crazy enough to buy outdoor for $3000 per pound because that's indoors price. Outdoor is currently selling $1500-2400 per pound, and i doubt the people at the high end are actually selling it. You'd need to have the balls to make 10 trips, and the very very unlikely connection to 1000lbs of weed. I doubt anyone will let you on the street with 100lbs of their weed nor you the cash to buy that much, thats $200000 to buy the weed in your scenario.
I know a grower in Humbolt who does about 100lbs a year outdoor. He says he "has millions" stashed away, but he has a connection to a dispensary that guarantees him that they will buy all his shit when he has it. Its very hard to make that kind of relationship with a dispensary, its alot down to your connections to be honest. Thats why I say you cant make alot of money being a vendor, cuz its not easy getting rid of all that weed.
NY has the highest price for weed in the country as far as I know. It usually runs for $7k per pound, but its illegal there. Can you imagine driving 10lbs to NY instead of LA for an additional $30,000. You have to have someone(s) there with alot of money (Mob) to buy it. And balls the size of water melons to drive it there.
BTW, this is what 70lbs of bud looks like.... They are in garbage bags!
now it's millions?
are you calling me a liar?
i know it's hard to fathom, but yes, 100's of pounds AND people to move it.
the collective i work with quits buying outdoor grown in early oct.
and doesnt wanna pay a fair price so i just grow for me and mine nowadays
gotta admit , outdoor is far cheaper to grow
half pound of weed at a dispensary isn't 6000 dollars so re-do the math in reality. 750 an oz you're so full o' shit
It's not a problem to find drivers that is for sure.
Every year in October about 6 dudes I know in SoCal dissapear for a good 45 days. They grew up in Williams. Guess where they all went to college. You think they got a few buddies still in that area. Of course.
The only reason most of the outdoor is cheap is because of the massive wave it rolls in at. If there wasnt' litterally a million pounds of it every fall it wouldnt' be so cheap.
Some of it is junk but I've seen plenty of garbage from indoor grows too. I've seen plenty of junk at what look like top rate clinics.
I did clones of NL outdoors this year and clones indoors off the same mother. the look was different between them. Outdoor was golden from all the trich's. Indoor is covered in trich's but still bright green. They smell a little different. The indoor has a stronger smell and slightly weaker high. The outdoor has less smell but the taste is amazing and it really gets ya stoned
hey, his "friend" told him, and even let him take a pic.
i've said waaaay too much.
my "drivier" ran into some issues and left me high and dry with a bunch of turkey bags. i need HELP.
That looks like a lot more that 70p's by the way. Looks like three per sack.
With a garbage truck? Seriously though, its defiantly very rare/uncommon. Its not like me or you are able to do that. The only way your going to make that $3000 per pound is to sell in July when nobody has any weed. So you'd be blowing $200,000, storing it for 6 months, and selling it when dispensaries are desperate for weed. If you run a dispensary you would want to keep the product on the shelf. If your dispensary runs out of weed, your fucked because your customers will go somewhere else. So no doubt you'd be able to sell it then. But who has that kind of money???
Im not talking about what Joe Millionare can do, but what us average joe's can do.
Here is the news article, it says 70lbs...http://stoptheinvasionoforegon.word...ler-efrain-nava-busted-w-70-lbs-of-marijuana/
Looks like the small garbage bags you'd use on a mini garbage bin. I believe there's 1lb per clear bag, and unknown in the black one.
what you don't seem to understand is i am already doing all this. there are NO "ifs".
Read it again, I said "If they sell 1/2 lb per day" And if a pound retails for $6000. I didn't say 6000 per 1/2lb. On average its about $5000 per pound here, but Ive seen it go for $6000 per pound or even $7000 for grade A rare at a dispensary/delivery in July.
What you seem not to understand is I am not talking about what you can do, its what most people can do, like me. I didn't say its impossible, but very unlikely.
Most people wont risk the huge amount of jail time for transporting 100lbs, its not worth it. Your 33x the legal limit! I do have about half a million in the bank right now, but I would never take the risk of loosing $200,000 if I got caught, it just doesn't make sense, I dont even take the risk of loosing $10k for buying 3lbs and driving to LA, though I am considering it. Its very hard to stash 10lbs of weed in your car, How are you able to do 100lbs on a single trip?
Let me ask you, how do you do it and not get caught?
well let me give you the details, ...
"I" don't do it. i had someone but shit happened. it's the same thing every year. it's all lined up until the day it's bagged. then everyone disappears. now i sit and wait, as the price starts to go back up.
by the time i find a buyer i'll be back at 3200 a pound. it's at 25 right now.
come springtime, i'll be on my seadoo.
I am very interested about how this is done. How did your runner transport it? My imagination is going wild right now...
I can see an RV with the sewer/gray water tank converted to store weed. But its gotta be something the police dogs cant smell, or that the pigs wont let the dogs near, like the sewer tank of an RV.
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