Schrooms and Ssri's

I was with this friend I knew and he wants me to do schrooms with him soon. The thing is that I take SSRI's (paroxetine and celexa), 60mg a night. I want to know what would happen if I took schrooms(the medicine would still be in my system). So far the only consistent information I have is that they dull the experiance. Do you guys know of anything?

lol man i think u mean shrooms?? if u do ur gonna have to take a couple of 'em lil hoes, bout 20-35 grams. There usually grown under cow shit, so boiling is always a yes! Even to be safe just boil it to clean of anything that might infect it. But i took 1, didnt feel anything. my friend tho said was hallucinating, maybe a really good shroom, or that bitch was fakin it. I remember him sayin that he saw someone stick their head out of a room and he was laughin real hard. I aint sure what the medicine would do, the shroom would prob just dissolve before anything really can happen. just like a regular mushroom..shrooms just contain psilcybin, psilocin, and baeocystin tho, nearly non-toxic. hope this helps

Gee, just out of pure curiosity, do you boil your weed? What about produce too?
Not to mention 35 grams! Holy cow.Are you trying to kill him, or just put him into a permanent trip?
2-5 grmas should be fine.
Also, shrooms are also a powerful vasoconstrictor. they should not be mixed with any drugs that also cause restriction of the arteries or otherwise alter blood pressure.
Psilocybin & Psilocin (the main active ingredents in shrooms) contain dimethyltryptamine (dmt)
Peace

Schfifty said:

lol man i think u mean shrooms?? if u do ur gonna have to take a couple of 'em lil hoes, bout 20-35 grams. There usually grown under cow shit, so boiling is always a yes! Even to be safe just boil it to clean of anything that might infect it. But i took 1, didnt feel anything. my friend tho said was hallucinating, maybe a really good shroom, or that bitch was fakin it. I remember him sayin that he saw someone stick their head out of a room and he was laughin real hard. I aint sure what the medicine would do, the shroom would prob just dissolve before anything really can happen. just like a regular mushroom..shrooms just contain psilcybin, psilocin, and baeocystin tho, nearly non-toxic. hope this helps

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Do you guys know if the SSRI's will effect the dose of mushrooms?

Actually Videoman he could be right, it depends on metheod, if the mushrooms have been dryed than the 90% of water that mushrooms are made of has dissappeared but left the psilocybin and psilocin so a lower dose is needed. Fresh you would need 90% more than dry so lets just say like 100% and 20-35 fresh would translate to 2-3.5 dry. Also boiling isnt nessecary because the cow feces would have to have been pasturized previously or the mushrooms wouldnt be able to get a foothold and grow. This would mean that the feces would be sterile except for the mushroom mycellia.

videoman40 said:

Gee, just out of pure curiosity, do you boil your weed? What about produce too?
Not to mention 35 grams! Holy cow.Are you trying to kill him, or just put him into a permanent trip?
2-5 grmas should be fine.
Also, shrooms are also a powerful vasoconstrictor. they should not be mixed with any drugs that also cause restriction of the arteries or otherwise alter blood pressure.
Psilocybin & Psilocin (the main active ingredents in shrooms) contain dimethyltryptamine (dmt)
Peace

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lolololol hell no video i dont boil weed, i boil shrooms because when i buy it from ppl, the shrooms either have dirt, shit, or something else, so boiling pretty much cleans it for the most part. and what do you mean by produce? but lol nah 2-5 is pretty small, i took about 5 grams and didnt feel nothing, but then again this kid is taking drugs so it may be diff. and could be a concern. good question video

Schfifty said:

lolololol hell no video i dont boil weed, i boil shrooms because when i buy it from ppl, the shrooms either have dirt, shit, or something else, so boiling pretty much cleans it for the most part. and what do you mean by produce? but lol nah 2-5 is pretty small, i took about 5 grams and didnt feel nothing, but then again this kid is taking drugs so it may be diff. and could be a concern. good question video

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of course 5 grams didnt do anything to u. u boiled them!

First of all, extreme heat breaks down psilocybin. You only would need to simmer them, don't let them boil, and I'd only simmer them if I was making shroom tea, no other reason. 5 grams of DRY shrooms will fuck you up really hard. 5 grams of WET shrooms will maybe give you a body buzz.

Second of all, get back on topic. In general SSRIs tend to reduce the effects of psychedelics a bit. But the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) said that some people report that there is NO decrease in effects when psilocybin mushrooms are taken by people taking SSRIs daily. So experts say no, SSRIs don't decrease the effects of shrooms always. Just to be safe, eat a normal dose (around 3g dry) and you will definately have hallucinations normally. If you don't feel anything after an hour, bump it up another 3g. Be careful eating any more than that or you may have a much stronger experience than you want.

Schfifty said:

lol man i think u mean shrooms?? if u do ur gonna have to take a couple of 'em lil hoes, bout 20-35 grams. There usually grown under cow shit, so boiling is always a yes! Even to be safe just boil it to clean of anything that might infect it. But i took 1, didnt feel anything. my friend tho said was hallucinating, maybe a really good shroom, or that bitch was fakin it. I remember him sayin that he saw someone stick their head out of a room and he was laughin real hard. I aint sure what the medicine would do, the shroom would prob just dissolve before anything really can happen. just like a regular mushroom..shrooms just contain psilcybin, psilocin, and baeocystin tho, nearly non-toxic. hope this helps

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Dude, high temperatures destroy the active compound in shrooms - so if you boil them they will do NOTHING.

5grams (dry weight) is a very large dose of even moderate strength psilocybe cubensis mushrooms. 20-35 grams is CRAZY unless you meant fresh instead of dry weight. (1 gram dry = roughly 10 grams fresh).

FYI...

Edit: Sorry I did not read all the replies before I spoke - I see now that other people have already said everything I did. DOH! lol

actually the first 5 grams i took were straight fresh..no boiling, and no effect.

Mushrooms are stronger wet by unit but not weight.

Schfifty said:

actually the first 5 grams i took were straight fresh..no boiling, and no effect.

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Yea they probably wouldn't do anything. 5 grams fresh is only 1/2 a gram dry weight. Mushroom doses are usually assumed to be in dry weight. For fresh mushrooms, you need to take 10x the recommended dry weight.

Mushrooms can vary greatly in potency by strain, and even the same mushrooms from flush to flush. Plus individual people can be more or less sensitive to them. Finally, the users body weight matters quite a bit. A 100lb person will get three times as high off a given dosage as a 300 pound dude will. Most dosage guidelines assume you weigh about 80kg:

light dose 1g dry or 10g fresh.
normal dose 2-3g dry or 20-30g fresh.
heavy dose 3-6g dry or 30-60g fresh.

Note: This is for Psilocibe Cubensis mushrooms. If you are talking about Amanita Muscaria or something, that is TOTALLY different.

Shiitake said:

If you are talking about Amanita Muscaria or something, that is TOTALLY different.

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Entirely different chemical even.

you guys are somewhat mis-informed (though not completely).
i used to grow mushrooms, and i am a shroomery.org addict. i've learned a thing or two

yes, mushrooms are ~90% water. so 35g fresh is about = to 3.5 dry (though it varies based on substrain, cultivation technique, substrate material, etc)

yes, the active chemicals psilocybin, psilocin, and baeyestoin (or whatever the fuck) DO break down with heat. however, the heat required to break down these chemicals is nowhere near the boiling temperature of water.

None of the above explains why you can cook them on a BBQ grill at 1000 degrees and they're still potent as hell. In addition, people have boiled them into tea for years, and if anything, it hits harder than eating them when they've never been exposed to heat. There's entirely too much opinion and no facts being presented.

Long term heat 'may' have an effect, but short term heat seems not to cause noticeable degradation. People with actual experience using food dehydrators report little to no loss in potency from drying that way.
RR

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This is taken from a post by RogerRabbit, a well-respected member of the Shroomery, and who is known for having successfully hybridized two strains of mushroom into one (Penis Envy + Texas = Penis Envy 6) They were probably just bunk shrooms, sorry bud.

A normal trip usually is 3.5 grams. A 5g dose is not that huge. There are people who often trip usually only on 7g+ doses, and I just read one today that took 14g!

The first harvest of mushrooms I got was 6 grams (fresh obviously). I ate them and had one of my best and hardest trips to date.

I ate about 9 grams of some indoor shrooms once and went for a walk on the moon, if you want to experience temporary insanity for 8+ hours there aren't many other ways. Coming up was like getting shot out of a cannon and then kicked in the nuts just before you hit the ground.

Some shrooms are WAY more potent. I can get some labbies right now and you can trip off about 0.5g dry. I ate 3.5g the other day and I was hallucinating like mad, I'd compare it to about 5 hits of L.

Yeah, the .5g dose were probably P. Copelandia or Pan. Cyans. Those are much more potent mushrooms than P. Cubensis. However, on the street, one is more likely to run across Cubies than Pan Cyans (perhaps excluding PNW).

Schfifty said:

actually the first 5 grams i took were straight fresh..no boiling, and no effect.

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Yea, 5 grams fresh is only 1/2 a gram dry equivalent, which would not have any noticeable effect for most people with Psilocybe Cubensis.

An average common dose for cubes would be 20-30grams fresh (or 2-3g dry) for a 180 pound person, and many people take twice that dose (or more) if they want to trip really hard.

according to this chart ssri's should affect it, its stimulant as well as antipsychotic


i have a treatment with paroxetine and alprazolam(benzodiazepine), paroxetine is essential while alprazolam not, so i avoid taking it to feel the trip, and is noticeable, when i take alprazolam i only feel very relaxed