San pedro question

Im about to purchase 4 12" tip cuttings... will tip cutting make pups? If so how long does it usally take? Thanks

It may or it may not, either way I'd plan ahead by 3 to 5 years, time goes by so fast, only the truely young are ignorant of this.
By that time you may or may not be too attached to them to give em the chop.

timeismoney1 said:

Im about to purchase 4 12" tip cuttings... will tip cutting make pups? If so how long does it usally take? Thanks

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Absolutley. Are you planning on planting them and letting them root first or were you planning on using them as is? Either way all you need is a chunk of cactus a few inches long to root and grow new pups. If you are planning to root first, make a new cut and slice the old caloused part off, and let the newly exposed part callous over to help avoid any rotting, and then plant about 2 inches deep (enough so it can stand on its own). Come harvest time, be sure to cut on an angle which also will help avoid any rotting so any accumulated the moisture will run off, instead of puddling in the centre.

As for the length of time for pupping, my San pedro started to pup about 3 months after I harvested. But don't go by my timeline. Two of those months they had insufficient light, which has now been rememdied. After I got them into good light though, they were pupping within a month.

Cooking 1. Growing the other 3.

I want to plant those 3 asap

So let me get this straight

I cut off the already coloused part and let it recolouse. Ima wrap in up in a towel and wet it light every now and then for a couple of weeks. Then plant it in pot?

Correct?

Unelss they are rooted, no need to hury to get them planted, THey can last YEARS outside of the soil without water. No roots + water = rot.

timeismoney1 said:

Cooking 1. Growing the other 3.

I want to plant those 3 asap

So let me get this straight

I cut off the already coloused part and let it recolouse. Ima wrap in up in a towel and wet it light every now and then for a couple of weeks. Then plant it in pot?

Correct?

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Well, I guess you don't HAVE to cut the calloused part off, and let recallous, but in my experience after shipping it is a good idea to do so. Any contaminants that may have penetrated the bottom will be discarded. I just feel better having the cuttings callous under my own supervision in a sterile environment, rather than in some shipping box.

And I've never heard of the wet towel method.. You don't want to keep the sliced end moist, that could promote rot. You want it to dry as fast as possible. Let stand for a week or so until completely calloused over. You could even put a fan on them if you like.

And another word of advice, I would cook more than one 12" cutting. Obviously it varies from cutting to cutting how potent it is and how much stress it has been under, but if you are consuming pretty much as soon as you receive them without having them in the dark for a year or so (like ANC stated, which stresses the cactus and boosts mescaline content) they MAY not be very potent. My four cutting were freshly cut and I rooted for about a month and then harvested all four and made into a tea. Although it was a fantastic experience, it was not as powerful as I had hoped. And that was with all four feet of SP. But as I said earlier, the potency can vary greatly, but I recommend yo cook more than one.

And as for the other three you planned on rooting and growing out, like anc said they may or may not pup. My SP that have pupped were all harvested, so they were forced to pup.

I'm still astonished by the elasticity of cacti... oh they can adapt to many climates, it shows there true strong nature!

ndangerspecimen101 said:

I'm still astonished by the elasticity of cacti... oh they can adapt to many climates, it shows there true strong nature!

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I agree. Goes to show the power of adaptation. They are true wonders of the plantae kingdom.

alright its official. i just purchased 2 12" tip cuttings of Trich Bridgesii. so since i only have 2 i guess i will root them both then when they pup which i hope the do then i will cook one up

what size pot should i plant these in to start off?

Congrats! I've not had the pleasure of sampling the Bridge, but I hear it can be the most potent of the trichocereus genus.

If you are anxious to enter the realm of mescalito and don't want to wait for your cuttings to pup (which could literally take years) just chop about a 3-4 inch length from each cutting, let callous and plant. They will pup MUCH faster, you'll have about another foot from each cutting this time next year and you'll be able to tea the remaining lengths this weekend if you like Unless you just want to learn how to care for cactus and harvesting for ingestion is not a concern right now; but I think it is, isn't it

A word of caution though: As mentioned before, the potency varies greatly from cutting to cutting and trich to trich. I've heard from good people over @ mycotopia that only a foot of Bridgesii is needed for a very influencial experience. Do some more research on Bridgesii and take your decision seriously. I can't recall the approximate dosage, but it is possible to ingest toxic amounts of mescaline. So be careful.

And any size pot will do for now until they root. You can always transplant later. As a rule, like with Mary, the bigger the better for future root development. Make sure you also have a very decent draining medium for the cuttings to be planted into. You can get the traditional cactus mix, but I'd add some additional horticultural sand and a dash more perlite to ensure you won't have any rot occurring.

Good Luck and Enjoy

Good idea bout cutting 3" off. I shall do that. But how does that make them pup faster?

Yes i am stoked to try mescaline lol

Guess i shall start them off in a 1 gallon pot.

First off, you wanted to root the cutting and let it pup on its own before you harvested, correct? If your cuttings were planted and rooted as is, they would continue to grow out normally, taller and wider. Nothing wrong with that, but it could take years for new pups or branches to develop and you are desiring to experiment sooner, rather than later, right? And it sounds as though you would like to continue growing these amazing and magical plants. If you plant a chunk of cactus with both ends sliced off, meaning there is no 'tip', it can't grow bigger as it normally would. Because of this, the cactus is forced to produce new pups as a means of survival.

They usually sprout from the spine arioles and/or the edge of where the cut was made. After initial rooting has taken place, it could take weeks or months to pup, depending on the growing conditions. Additionally, many times there are more than one pup also. One of my San pedros has 3 new pups and six is not unheard of. If cared for nicely, these pups could potentially grow to 1 foot, 18" or more during the growing season. Again, it all depends on the growing conditions.

Hope this helped to answer you questions.

Enjoy!