Root Rot set in instantly after nutrient change

ntg908

ntg908

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I am running a couple GDP plants from dutch passion in a spare room i have. I only have a couple grows under my belt but i work at dispensaries and understand the process (i think). Im running the GH flora series with the addition of hydroguard and terpinator. I seem to have had an issue with root rot in the past and believed it was a hot reservoir so i added an AC unit to solve that. Well after my second nutrient change on this run within 12 hours all of my roots were slimy, stunted growth, curling/ yellowing leafs the whole 9 yards. my question is can it be because of pushing close to 1000 ppm's to such a small plant? I have read ot could be from lack of oxygen or unclean environment, but i wipe everythong down every change with h2o2. Thanks for any help
 
Failmore

Failmore

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That terpinator is 100% causing your problems. Toss it in the trash. It is snake oil.

The best flowers will be grown by base nutrients, at the correct amounts at the correct times.

Organic compounds and hydro just don't work well IMO. Sure some people can make it work. Just not me.

If you want to run hydro, and never want a problem ever again. Run a sterile res.

Just bare with me here. But bleach is your best friend.

.01 grams of poolshock per gallon and you are good to go.

1000ppm is on the hi side.

You got pics?

Use ec when talking about dissolved solids. That way nobody needs to convert numbers.
 
ntg908

ntg908

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Failmore said:
That terpinator is 100% causing your problems. Toss it in the trash. It is snake oil.

The best flowers will be grown by base nutrients, at the correct amounts at the correct times.

Organic compounds and hydro just don't work well IMO. Sure some people can make it work. Just not me.

If you want to run hydro, and never want a problem ever again. Run a sterile res.

Just bare with me here. But bleach is your best friend.

.01 grams of poolshock per gallon and you are good to go.

1000ppm is on the hi side.

You got pics?

Use ec when talking about dissolved solids. That way nobody needs to convert numbers.
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SnoopyDoo said:
You're taking a chance when you use products like Terpinator in a rez because it has sugars/carbs which bacteria and fungi love to feed on. Avoid sweeteners too.
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Sounds like terpinator isnt very good for true dwc lol, in which case should i just rely on the GH micros to give me my taste/smell? The last 2 grows i did taste very bland and almost clean, thought it was either my flush not long enough or the 3 base nutrients just isnt enough in water, why i turned to the full line and terpinator.
 
Failmore

Failmore

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ntg908 said:
Sounds like terpinator isnt very good for true dwc lol, in which case should i just rely on the GH micros to give me my taste/smell? The last 2 grows i did taste very bland and almost clean, thought it was either my flush not long enough or the 3 base nutrients just isnt enough in water, why i turned to the full line and terpinator.
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The 3 base at the right amounts should get you good tasting bud with good genetics.

Feed till the finish.

Run a few days of clean water before the chop.
 
ntg908

ntg908

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Failmore said:
The 3 base at the right amounts should get you good tasting bud with good genetics.

Feed till the finish.

Run a few days of clean water before the chop.
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See ive done that my last 2 grows with just my tap water for flush and the base 3 (floraMicro, floraGrow, and floraBloom) and even after a 15 day flush with tap water, i get a taste that is almost like a dryer sheet. I dont know if it is my flush that is messed up or if it is lack of terps due to lack of growing medium. Any input?
 
Failmore

Failmore

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ntg908 said:
See ive done that my last 2 grows with just my tap water for flush and the base 3 (floraMicro, floraGrow, and floraBloom) and even after a 15 day flush with tap water, i get a taste that is almost like a dryer sheet. I dont know if it is my flush that is messed up or if it is lack of terps due to lack of growing medium. Any input?
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Sounds like it dried to fast. What is your dry and cure process? How do you jat them? Do you jar with bovida packs? Do you use a RH meter in the jar?
 
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jonnynobody

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ntg908 said:
I am running a couple GDP plants from dutch passion in a spare room i have. I only have a couple grows under my belt but i work at dispensaries and understand the process (i think). Im running the GH flora series with the addition of hydroguard and terpinator. I seem to have had an issue with root rot in the past and believed it was a hot reservoir so i added an AC unit to solve that. Well after my second nutrient change on this run within 12 hours all of my roots were slimy, stunted growth, curling/ yellowing leafs the whole 9 yards. my question is can it be because of pushing close to 1000 ppm's to such a small plant? I have read ot could be from lack of oxygen or unclean environment, but i wipe everythong down every change with h2o2. Thanks for any help
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Just had a root issue in a 5 gallon hempy on 1 plant. Not sure what happened but after pouring a gallon of water in the run off literally stunk so bad it curled my nose hairs. She's pretty big so I have to water her in the am and pm. I added 5ML/gallon of 34% h202 each time I watered and over the course of 4 days the problem is resolved. Clear clean run off with no funky odd smells. All of the above comments about terpinator are 100% accurate. I'd say 85% of the products in a hydro shop are pure trash that should be avoided at all costs. It's a real rat race getting accurate or sound advice from the employees too.

Good choice on flora trio. It's a great fertilizer.
 
Bullet2112

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If you eliminate terpinator, and it happens again, its bacteria in your source water. This is more likely the cause really as terpenator has been used in RDWC with no issues at all, even at 30ml per gallon (max dose) it is harmless and ph neutral so it doesn't mess with your ph levels. It works as advertised IMHO.
 
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jonnynobody

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Bullet2112 said:
If you eliminate terpinator, and it happens again, its bacteria in your source water. This is more likely the cause really as terpenator has been used in RDWC with no issues at all, even at 30ml per gallon (max dose) it is harmless and ph neutral so it doesn't mess with your ph levels. It works as advertised IMHO.
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Personally I'd be too embarrassed to say I bought the stuff. Kudos to you for your honesty :)

The only person I've ever heard of that used that overpriced sugar water is an acquaintance who claimed without it the pot just won't have any smell. He sounded very authoritative when he said it too. I just stared with a blank glazed over "what the fuck" look on my face. I literally had no words. Still don't. That was several years ago :)
 
SnoopyDoo

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jonnynobody said:
Personally I'd be too embarrassed to say I bought the stuff. Kudos to you for your honesty :)

The only person I've ever heard of that used that overpriced sugar water is an acquaintance who claimed without it the pot just won't have any smell. He sounded very authoritative when he said it too. I just stared with a blank glazed over "what the fuck" look on my face. I literally had no words. Still don't. That was several years ago :)
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I'd agree 100% with your acquaintance. Had a Critical Kush that didn't have much taste or smell to it. Terpinator definitely increased Terp production on that strain/pheno. Nevertheless, now that I know better, I no longer use Terpinator.
 
ntg908

ntg908

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xtsho said:
You go 15 days in DWC with just plain water? Why?
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i only went 15 days with plain water as a FLUSH waiting for the plants to yellow and suck the nutrients from the leaves because i believe i lacked a flush last time and got an almost dryer sheet taste. 15 days still seemed to give me that weird taste with no yellowing of leaves. This is why i bought florakleen and the terpinator
 
ntg908

ntg908

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Failmore said:
Sounds like it dried to fast. What is your dry and cure process? How do you jat them? Do you jar with bovida packs? Do you use a RH meter in the jar?
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I tapered humidity off over about 10-11 days starting at 60 down to about 45 at day 10 until stems snap. After i bag them in breathable LB bags we use for transporting bud from dispensaries with 2 low end hygrometers and 2 bovedas at 62%. Bag stays about 58% for 3 weeks with a 30 minute burp a day
 
ntg908

ntg908

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jonnynobody said:
Just had a root issue in a 5 gallon hempy on 1 plant. Not sure what happened but after pouring a gallon of water in the run off literally stunk so bad it curled my nose hairs. She's pretty big so I have to water her in the am and pm. I added 5ML/gallon of 34% h202 each time I watered and over the course of 4 days the problem is resolved. Clear clean run off with no funky odd smells. All of the above comments about terpinator are 100% accurate. I'd say 85% of the products in a hydro shop are pure trash that should be avoided at all costs. It's a real rat race getting accurate or sound advice from the employees too.

Good choice on flora trio. It's a great fertilizer.
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I have now went through this issue a couple times, with an H202 bath. I just recently learned that calcium deficiencies can cause root rot in almost perfect conditions
 
xtsho

xtsho

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ntg908 said:
i only went 15 days with plain water as a FLUSH waiting for the plants to yellow and suck the nutrients from the leaves because i believe i lacked a flush last time and got an almost dryer sheet taste. 15 days still seemed to give me that weird taste with no yellowing of leaves. This is why i bought florakleen and the terpinator
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You're doing it wrong. You don't need FloraKleen or Terpinator. I've done DWC and had great tasting weed just using base nutes.

What nutrients are you using and how much are you using? If you're using more than 3-4 bottles that's probably why your weed tastes like crap.
 
ntg908

ntg908

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xtsho said:
You're doing it wrong. You don't need FloraKleen or Terpinator. I've done DWC and had great tasting weed just using base nutes.

What nutrients are you using and how much are you using? If you're using more than 4 that's probably why your weed tastes like crap.
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Was just FloraMicro FlorGro and FloraBloom on every run ive done so far. Never had any burning nor any deficiencies, i used great white for a bit to start the roots out on the second run but not long. I base my nutrients off the flora series recirculating chart, and only did about 80% of what the chart suggested since i didnt wanna burn my first couple crops. Ive kept my VPD almost perfect according to what pulse labs websites chart says for each grow cycle, with the occasional rain storm spiking my humidity for a day or 2. Running room around 72-74 at all times and little drop at night when i switch to 12 on - 12 off
 
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ntg908

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Billy the Mountain said:
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Other Symptoms of Calcium Cannabis Deficiency
If a cannabis plant is affected by a calcium deficiency for too long, it may begin to show the following symptoms due to the lack of calcium.
  • Stems become weak or flimsy and may crack easily
  • Stems become hollow or show inner signs of decay
  • Plant does not stand up well to heat
  • Flowers/buds do not develop fully, or development is slow
  • Roots appear weak or under-developed
  • In severe calcium deficiencies, parts of roots may even die off or turn brown
  • Roots are more susceptible to root problems like slimy root rot
 
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