Root bound?

willisbrow · Oct 8, 2022

My seedling popped out of soil on august 23rd in little starter cups with happy frog soil. On September 14 I transplanted into 1 gallon pots with fox farms ocean forest. For the last week they have been looking pretty sad. Today I took them outta the pot to look at the roots. And there are lots of roots everywhere.
Is there too many roots and do I need to transplant? I’m gonna transplant tomorrow and see what happens.
Here’s some pics of the root ball
Tell me what u think
I have only given them a little great white and water.

DoubleAtotheRON · Oct 8, 2022

Time to up pot!.... Roots look healthy, but yeah, you may be running out of room for them. They should rebound nicely.

Grow Monster · Oct 8, 2022

U should post pics of plant. It might've been light or water stress making it look sad. Its definitely not root bound. I've seen roots wrapped all around the pots. U can give it a bigger home for sure if u want them roots to stretch out. U should look into fabric pots if u dont wanna ever have to worry about roots again. They self prune. I like the 1 and 3 gallons. U can grow full root system for mature plant in a 1 gallon with no issues. But the 3 gallon is less work overall cus of less waterings. U only need bigger pots if u wanna veg longer. U gotta add time to the grow the more u transplant cus u need recovery time.
Looking at your roots u could've left it in that pot but if u vegging longer for bigger plant then transplant away.

willisbrow · Oct 8, 2022

I got another thread of my plants. But here are some pic from today.
they look prettysad

willisbrow · Oct 8, 2022

I’m trying to clone all those three then grow 9 plants in my 5x5. I was thinking to veg fora about a month and then flower. But I’m new to indoor and need to make sure I can get happy plants in veg before I try to flower anything.

Grow Monster · Oct 8, 2022

Yeah thats from overwatering or to much light. If i had to guess my money would go to watering.

Grow Monster · Oct 8, 2022

Are letting medium dry out between waterings. Leaves look heavy like they full of water.

DoubleAtotheRON · Oct 8, 2022

willisbrow said:
I got another thread of my plants. But here are some pic from today.
they look prettysad

Do they look like this all of the time?, or just at the end of the light cycle.

Grow Monster · Oct 8, 2022

No Need to wait. Grab the clones now from the lil branches on the bottom. U can make 2 or 3 clones from branch. Cut at nodes. They can start making roots while mothers recover.

DoubleAtotheRON · Oct 8, 2022

Looks like they might need a light CalMag as well.. Foliar feed is the fastest fix, but only after lights out. Could be the lighting of the photo too. Looks N heavy.

Nutty sKunK · Oct 8, 2022

willisbrow said:
I got another thread of my plants. But here are some pic from today.
they look prettysad

Overwatering / low oxygen in root zone.

Are they sitting in any run off after watering?

I’d transplant but add some perlite to the mix. Like 10% volume of pot.

But the overwatering is obvious due to saggy leaves and puffy margins in the leaves

DoubleAtotheRON · Oct 8, 2022

Could be a few things... but here's a Mulders chart.. it shows how an abundance of one mineral affects anther, and/or blocks the uptake of them. You can see that too much N will block out your K... I have this pinned on my wall.. Which is why I think your abundance of N is blocking your synergism with Mn. Looking at the chart, you can see that Ca is the most antagonistic of all minerals, and vise versa.

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willisbrow · Oct 8, 2022

DoubleAtotheRON said:
Do they look like this all of the time?, or just at the end of the light cycle.

They look like that all the time. Was 48 hours before I watered earlier tonight. And pots were really light. I’m trying to figure out what’s going on.
Two waterings ago I watered with correct PH water and 12 hours later two plants started looking better. But then got all sad again before I watered again.

willisbrow · Oct 8, 2022

Grow Monster said:
Yeah thats from overwatering or to much light. If i had to guess my money would go to watering.

That’s what I’m reading every where. Droopy leaves = over watering. Maybe next time I’ll let my leaves wilt from under watering to see if that’s the problem.

willisbrow · Oct 8, 2022

Grow Monster said:
No Need to wait. Grab the clones now from the lil branches on the bottom. U can make 2 or 3 clones from branch. Cut at nodes. They can start making roots while mothers recover.

My buddy told me not to take clones of unhappy plants.

willisbrow · Oct 8, 2022

DoubleAtotheRON said:
Could be a few things... but here's a Mulders chart.. it shows how an abundance of one mineral affects anther, and/or blocks the uptake of them. You can see that too much N will block out your K... I have this pinned on my wall.. Which is why I think your abundance of N is blocking your synergism with Mn. Looking at the chart, you can see that Ca is the most antagonistic of all minerals, and vise versa.

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They are in fox farms ocean forest and i haven’t fed them anything yet except what’s in the soil.

Nutty sKunK · Oct 8, 2022

willisbrow said:
That’s what I’m reading every where. Droopy leaves = over watering. Maybe next time I’ll let my leaves wilt from under watering to see if that’s the problem.

I wouldn’t do that. They won’t magically get better. Your media is a little dense for that plant.

transplant it and it’ll look better as it finds more root space

willisbrow · Oct 8, 2022

This morning i took theee pics. 14 hours after I watered them.
It’s why I don’t think my hey are over watered. They still would have been sad.

willisbrow · Oct 10, 2022

I transplanted into bigger pots with 25% perlite and 75% ff ocean forest.
24 hours after transplant and things are looking a lot better. Here are some pics.

DoubleAtotheRON · Oct 10, 2022

willisbrow said:
I transplanted into bigger pots with 25% perlite and 75% ff ocean forest.
24 hours after transplant and things are looking a lot better. Here are some pics.

Her shoes were just getting tight. Best of luck bud!

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