Rob Ford’s widow sues Doug Ford, alleging he has deprived her and her children of millions

gwheels said:

The funny thing is the bills remained the same...the tax load got worse....and everything else in this province goes up per year (property tax, natural gas and gas (carbon tax), kids programs, food, etc).
I am glad to be on the end of it. I might retire next year.

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I learned a long time ago. and retired

gb123 said:

I learned a long time ago. and retired

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I think next year is a good year. I am selling my house and retiring too. A nice bungalow in the country is my future. And a big greenhouse to make 4 plants produce

sold my house two years back.

...gonna wait a while before buying another ...

gb123 said:

Most have no clue what being rich is...

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I make <35K + a house and company truck...and I can honestly say I'm richer than many who make three times that. Money and possessions aren't big factors,for me it's the quality of life I enjoy.

Global news just declared a Ford Majority. Good luck with that.

ya thanks we are gonna need it....I was hoping for ZOD

Poor Ontario.

Oh happy day. Go Ford. Clean it up.

The people have spoken.

In sad news Anthony Bourdain died. He was the only chef i really wanted to meet and have a beer with.

Somatek said:

I find it comical how fraud nation can't actually defend his policy or why it makes sense to vote for him. Which leads me to believe his manipulated your emotions with false info to get you to dance to his tune.

Thanks for confirming that belief by avoiding answering the question.

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So how are the polls this morning?....

gwheels said:

Oh happy day. Go Ford. Clean it up.

The people have spoken.

In sad news Anthony Bourdain died. He was the only chef i really wanted to meet and have a beer with.

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Wait what? Bourdain died? Wtf, i know he battled a heroin addiction way back when. Man, gonna miss his cooking shows

Somatek said:

I find it comical how fraud nation can't actually defend his policy or why it makes sense to vote for him. Which leads me to believe his manipulated your emotions with false info to get you to dance to his tune.

Thanks for confirming that belief by avoiding answering the question.

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Shows how little you're around these parts. Emotions and myself are like oil and water. Swing and a miss

gwheels said:

Oh happy day. Go Ford. Clean it up.

The people have spoken.

In sad news Anthony Bourdain died. He was the only chef i really wanted to meet and have a beer with.

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I think Ford will clean up - for his private businesses and those of his friends. He won't do anything good for the average Ontario voter, imo. Your province is already in financial trouble, and Dougie is promising to lower taxes and give out freebies. Who is going to pay for that? As an ex-patriot of Ontario and an outsider looking in, I think Ontario will be in a worse place in 4 years. The rest of the country doesn't have any better choices to look forward to either, federally or provincially.

VIANARCHRIS said:

I think Ford will clean up - for his private businesses and those of his friends. He won't do anything good for the average Ontario voter, imo. Your province is already in financial trouble, and Dougie is promising to lower taxes and give out freebies. Who is going to pay for that? As an ex-patriot of Ontario and an outsider looking in, I think Ontario will be in a worse place in 4 years. The rest of the country doesn't have any better choices to look forward to either, federally or provincially.

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What everyone is missing is the deficit needs to be reigned in. We are in debt to the eyeballs because of tax and spend liberals at the helm for 15 years.

Lets break out the scalpel and trim the fat. The bureaucratic kind. 1 in 9 jobs is funded by the tax payer. To imply that system is 100% efficient is ludicrous.

4% of all of that equals all of the tax cuts. But first you need a complete analysis of the books and the fuzzy bullshit math the Liberals have been "balancing" things with. The auditor general said so the Liberals just said no that is not true (due to the inclusion of the teachers pension as part of a crown asset which is shady and not proper accounting).

But we will see in 4 years. The good news is if he fucks it up too hard there will be an Orange crush next round. We shall see.

It is good news for low income earners (no provincial income tax for them) and good news for the higher middle class who have been getting bent over for 15 years.

CalyxCrusher said:

Shows how little you're around these parts. Emotions and myself are like oil and water. Swing and a miss

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You say that but still haven't provided a logical answer to the question about carbon tax. If it's between someones actions & their words I generally but more weight in their words. Defend how it's a logical position & I'll acknowledge I'm wrong. Otherwise you're just flapping your lips.

The polls predicted he had over an 80% chance of winning a majority because the NDP lost momentum & never got the penetration into the 905 area. What are you trying to say with that comment?

The polls never veered from a PC majority. The left just had a lot of wishful thinking and interpretation. As long as we continue to have the first past the post system the outcome will never be the majority and the libs had 15 years to change that....but didnt.

And the carbon tax is bullshit of the highest order. Mr Turdeau will be next and then that shit is getting squashed. Canada produces less than 2% of the pollution. China and India need to buck up and then we can all talk about sustainability and carbon tax. It is the biggest scam in history. More money for the coffers of Government.

Business is constantly facing obstacles that no other country faces. And we can not all work for the gov. Manufacturing is necessary for the economy and taxation and hydro is getting out of hand.

gwheels said:

The polls never veered from a PC majority. The left just had a lot of wishful thinking and interpretation. As long as we continue to have the first past the post system the outcome will never be the majority and the libs had 15 years to change that....but didnt.

And the carbon tax is bullshit of the highest order. Mr Turdeau will be next and then that shit is getting squashed. Canada produces less than 2% of the pollution. China and India need to buck up and then we can all talk about sustainability and carbon tax. It is the biggest scam in history. More money for the coffers of Government.

Business is constantly facing obstacles that no other country faces. And we can not all work for the gov. Manufacturing is necessary for the economy and taxation and hydro is getting out of hand.

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You're right the polls got low but were always above a 50% prediction of a majority. The performance wasn't impressive considering how close it ended up being with up to a 20 point lead going in. Regardless PC won & now we get to see if they can follow through.

Thanks for actually acknowledging the point. If the plan is based off the assumption that trudeau will lose the next fed election & the next gov will scrape the carbon tax that could be feasible. It's based on a lot of assumptions though & personally I'd rather not base long term plans on assumptions about things that are incredibly hard to predict. Looking at past govs it's unusual to have a 1 term government, usually incumbents are favoured to win in the short term. Despite not agreeing with your view that at least isn't an emotional based reason, which I can respect.

The fact we produce so little carbon emissions is why I support carbon tax. In the long run we have the advantage as low emission companies pay less tax then heavy polluters. It also creates a great opportunity for farmers to increase their income by farming carbon credits in their bush lots.

Ontario has always had a surplus of electricity. We pay the States to take it, we've paid the corp leasing the Bruce NGS to not operate. It defies the law of supply and demand. Ontario should have the cheapest electricity in the country...why? Blame 'Green' energy provided by private producers.

redi jedi said:

Ontario has always had a surplus of electricity. We pay the States to take it, we've paid the corp leasing the Bruce NGS to not operate. It defies the law of supply and demand. Ontario should have the cheapest electricity in the country...why? Blame 'Green' energy provided by private producers.

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Who started that? Oh right the Liberal party of Ontario.

We also have a surplus because manufacturing pulled out and went to the USA because the Governement picks and chooses who they will support and the rest of the companies can pay sky high electricity prices.

I am happy that she is gone. Happier they got 7 seats (lost official party status) and happier that a majority gov is in place and can do what is necessary.

Best coffee morning EVER.

redi jedi said:

Ontario has always had a surplus of electricity. We pay the States to take it, we've paid the corp leasing the Bruce NGS to not operate. It defies the law of supply and demand. Ontario should have the cheapest electricity in the country...why? Blame 'Green' energy provided by private producers.

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What's your source for that? I remember there being concerns about aging systems that weren't meeting our needs & caused rolling brown outs or the summer when the grid collapsed for all of southern ontario/northern US.

The decision was between investing in green energy or more coal/nuclear plants. The end decision was to follow voters directives & move away from coal/pollution towards "green" energy. Which also created a lot of jobs as contracts with samsung were linked to producing into Ontario.

I don't know if it was the right choice, we couldn't continue to subsidise hydro rates, privatisation may have worked if Harris had finished but I don't think reductionist thinking works for such a complicated problem.

redi jedi said:

Ontario has always had a surplus of electricity. We pay the States to take it, we've paid the corp leasing the Bruce NGS to not operate. It defies the law of supply and demand. Ontario should have the cheapest electricity in the country...why? Blame 'Green' energy provided by private producers.

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if you have a product that you cannot keep or store..you sell it for anything you can get,,,

kinda like what our shwag industry will be like.

lol