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Rob Roy

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I don't believe a man has a right to force a woman to do a thing

He has a right to insist she leave him alone, if that's what he prefers, just like she has the same right.

So, if a woman is a sex worker, you'd agree she has a right to refuse to erm "bake a cake" with somebody she doesn't like ?
 

Herb & Suds

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No that's not it.

I know you're disappointed, but my question was more toward the idea of creating a conversation about when it's acceptable to force another person to interact with you in a generic way and not the way that would cause you to put your hands down your pants and fondle yourself.
I would say NO on several levels but that is just me ...your mileage may vary
 

Herb & Suds

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He has a right to insist she leave him alone, if that's what he prefers, just like she has the same right.

So, if a woman is a sex worker, you'd agree she has a right to refuse to erm "bake a cake" with somebody she doesn't like ?
I don't completely agree with the premise of a woman as a sex worker ...so there is that
 

Herb & Suds

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So you'd prevent a woman from engaging in consensual sex for money if that's what she chose to do?
Again I don't believe in forcing a women to do anything and those that try usually regret poking the bear
It sounds like you are trying to get to the abortion issue in a snails fashion
I don't think men have a right to tell women what to do in that area either
 

hotrodharley

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No that's not it.

I know you're disappointed, but my question was more toward the idea of creating a conversation about when it's acceptable to force another person to interact with you in a generic way and not the way that would cause you to put your hands down your pants and fondle yourself.
You a "sovereign citizen"?
 

Rob Roy

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Again I don't believe in forcing a women to do anything and those that try usually regret poking the bear
It sounds like you are trying to get to the abortion issue in a snails fashion
I don't think men have a right to tell women what to do in that area either
While I wish women wouldn't get abortions, I don't believe I have a right to forcibly prevent them. Of course, any associated cost is their responsibility and they don't have a right to make others pay for them.

I was trying to illustrate that people who believe they have a right to force another person to serve them, if applied logically in the case of forcing a sex worker, creates a conundrum.

You see many people feel "civil rights" (an odd concept) means they get to force another person in business to serve them. Which if applied consistently would mean, those same people must think it's okay to rape a sex worker. (force them to serve)

So, by extension, so called "civil rights" would include the "right" to rape.
 

Rob Roy

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You a "sovereign citizen"?

No, that's an oxymoron btw. Common mistake though. To be sovereign, negates "citizenship" / subjection to a ruler etc.

I am a natural born free person who doesn't own anybody and refuses to be owned.

You, on the other hand are a subject, which is a nice way of saying you have masters.
 

Herb & Suds

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While I wish women wouldn't get abortions, I don't believe I have a right to forcibly prevent them. Of course, any associated cost is their responsibility and they don't have a right to make others pay for them.

I was trying to illustrate that people who believe they have a right to force another person to serve them, if applied logically in the case of forcing a sex worker, creates a conundrum.

You see many people feel "civil rights" (an odd concept) means they get to force another person in business to serve them. Which if applied consistently would mean, those same people must think it's okay to rape a sex worker. (force them to serve)

So, by extension, so called "civil rights" would include the "right" to rape.
Anyone mention you suffer from some warped logic?
 

Rob Roy

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Anyone mention you suffer from some warped logic?
I was hoping rather than making an unfounded claim, somebody would be bold enough to present an argument that disproves it.

So, how about it?

Are you okay with forcing a sex worker or any other kind of worker to serve another person against their will?
 

londonfog

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I was hoping rather than making an unfounded claim, somebody would be bold enough to present an argument that disproves it.

So, how about it?

Are you okay with forcing a sex worker or any other kind of worker to serve another person against their will?
Yup. When looking for @Rob Roy just search any thread with the word " pedophile " Dude WTF
 

Herb & Suds

Well-Known Member
I was hoping rather than making an unfounded claim, somebody would be bold enough to present an argument that disproves it.

So, how about it?

Are you okay with forcing a sex worker or any other kind of worker to serve another person against their will?
Like nutwingers love to say ...PROVE ME WRONG !
"Anyone mention you suffer from some warped logic?"
 
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