Reef's Perpetual TGA-THC Lovefest - Come All Ye Cannabis Lubbers Budporn Be Here

ReefBongwell

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Greetings ladies and gents,

After a long, exhaustive harvest of trials and tribulations (I've had at least 4 intrusions into my house this week by outsiders), I have made it through the other side and am preparing for next flower now.

The old cabinet in the man cave is no more... but from its remnants has risen a new cabinet like a phoenix to spew it's canna-love all over this place. My old cab was 6' long x 4' wide x 4' tall. This new cab is 10' long x 4' wide x 6' tall. I know it's not much compared to some of the awesome grow rooms by the big boys, but we all have to start somewhere.

Every flower my grow seems to be getting larger and larger.

This will be my first run (ever) from clones. My last attempt had to get cut early - previous to that I was just not into clonings and went all from seed. Now I'm a clone man and my seed runs are pretty much for pheno hunting.

Here's what I have going now:

1 Chernobyl x Space Jill near the end of flower (nugbucket's special -- a runt pheno)
2 Timewreck #14 cuttings < 2 weeks into flower
7 Timewreck clones in veg of several phenos
3 Chernobyl x Space Jill clones of different phenos
6 Ace of Spades from seed (females)

So the goal is to get'em going perpetual and well vegged to put out good yields. After this run I'll be narrowing down clone phenos so I'll have room for more seeds it's already too crowded.

I'm going to be putting in a seed order soon... planning on getting 3 new strains, but haven't decided which yet.

These plants have been through a lot... half ignored at the end of flower, burned early, droughted recently, constrained in pots too small until the foreign invaders have gone... the other day half were in boxes in the back of my car in the summer heat with the windows rolled up, the other half were in boxes upstairs.... they've had it rougher than any, but they've come through with flying colors... the Aces just got transplanted the last couple of days into 5 gallons in super soil (original formula)... the others will be getting transplanted into bigger containers over the next few days, mostly 5 gallons but I'm not sure I have enough 5s for everyone.

New cab -- I just put it up today haven't had time to retie all the lights to better heights -- will be doing that tomorrow
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The 3 flower girls - Chernobyl x Space Jill runt in the middle
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She does look tastey... good enough to smoke
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TimeWrecks
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Lower right timewreck, upper right Apollo 13, left 3 Chernobyl x Space Jill
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Ace of Spades
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tags420

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Nice upgrades reef. It's cool when it constantly is improving and things are on the up. No more moving plants in and out this time?
 

grownbykane

Active Member
looks good man. im with you on the seed plants vs. clones... i run all clones in my production room because of the consistency that comes with cuts, but the seed plants i run in the testing tent always seem to be just a tiny bit healthier than my clones. and running seeds is just so much more interesting.
 

ReefBongwell

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Nice upgrades reef. It's cool when it constantly is improving and things are on the up. No more moving plants in and out this time?
Yes, although not completely... I'm temporarily down to one chamber but I have 3 plants in veg... so I'm going to be moving those for the next 2-3 weeks until the veg girls hit flower... but that's 3 small pots it's like nothing compared to what I was doing before! And the bigger pot should be getting harvested probably by the time the next batch goes to flower.

I'm gonna be setting up a veg chamber somewhere as soon as I figure out where and how :) I want to put it in the same room but i'd have to lightproof the flower cab first. i'm going to be panda sheeting it up soon and probably getting an indoor a/c before they hit flower. Once I get the new veg cab up and this batch in flower there won't be any more moving... but I also need some new lights, as my 3 veg LEDs are currently hanging in that cab. I probably should've posted this before but I'm going to be putting another light in there pre-flower too which will either be:

1000w HPS (what I'm leaning towards, just for 1K HPS vs LED comparison)
600w HPS (because I already have one and just need a ventable hood for it)
800w or 2 x 400w California Lightworks
More blackstars (least likely only because I want stuff more for comparison) - I do need to get one more flower blackstar 240w to round out my collection though since i'm taking a veg light away for veg :)

Votes or suggestions?

My veg lights are already handled with the 200w CFL (i shoulda gone 350w dangit) and 3 x 240w veg blackstars

very nice.man, thats a ton of leds
Yeah I wish I had more ;) As you can see I don't have enough to fill the cab out - definitely need another flower one

looks good man. im with you on the seed plants vs. clones... i run all clones in my production room because of the consistency that comes with cuts, but the seed plants i run in the testing tent always seem to be just a tiny bit healthier than my clones. and running seeds is just so much more interesting.
My issue with seeds is unless you're going to give it a long veg you're not seeing it at it's full potential in flower... I always feel like I don't know what I'm missing on a seeds that I might have seen from the older clones... I'm excited to get that apollo through flower as the mom was one of my favorites I lost and the clone is actually a year and a half old... my oldest girl :) I didn't even know it was still around til a couple months back.

I'm definitely seeing that it seems a bit easier to stunt a clone :) that may be because I mistreated mine some though for a bit... a few got really purple almost black main stems like the apollo and are just now recovering really. Others chugged right through :)

Time to get to transplanting and tieing :)
 

ReefBongwell

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Here's the ones I'm considering for putting an order in on this coming week - I'm aiming mainly for fruity combined with medical. Will probably pick up 3 10 packs of different TGA strains... maybe a few extra beans of the others as well

TGA Jacks Cleaner 2
TGA Qush
TGA Space Dawg
TGA Jesus OG
TGA Jack Skellington
TGA Third Dimension
TGA Agent Orange
TGA Qleaner

Others in the mix (might do some 2 or 3 seed orders on some of these):
Cali Connection Tahoe OG
Cali Connection 818 Headband
Cali Connection Girl Scout Cookies
Serious AK-47
Reserva Privada Sour Kush
Serious White Russian
Spice of Life Blue Satellite
GranddaddyPurp Grandaddy Purp
GrandaddyPurp Phantom Cookies
Mosca C99 bx1
 

SOMEBEECH

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So you had people break in to your OP?
Oh yea,You need to try the Shoreline,Amazing stuff.:weed:

Beech
 

danky supreme

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Hey Reef, you seem like the appropriate person to ask this question. What are the pros/cons of leds vs hids? Ive heard the general overview of this debate, but have yet to hear the arguement from anyone with real world experience.
 

angryblackman

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Subbing up early for this! Seeing grows like this make me want to kick baby seals because I can't play. LOL

Timewreck is a beast from what I have seen on the nerd. Beautiful pics Reef!
 

ReefBongwell

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Hey Reef, you seem like the appropriate person to ask this question. What are the pros/cons of leds vs hids? Ive heard the general overview of this debate, but have yet to hear the arguement from anyone with real world experience.
LED Pros
Much lower electric
Much lower heat profile (but not no heat it will still build up in an unventilated area)
^^ Those two are the reasons I got into them in the first place
Can get the LEDs pretty much up to the plants usually without light bleaching (not really recommended though and sometimes you still do get bleach spots)

LED Cons
Price price price (the price should be made up with electric savings if you stick with'em for a few years)
Penetration (may not be an issue on the 5ws I haven't tried them yet -- not really an issue if like me you're growing plants 3-4' tall and trimming the lower growth off).
Confusion / variation between brands - HPS for the most part is HPS - you know what you're getting. With LEDs every brand is different it's hard to know which the best way to go is

LED Myths
Fluffy buds / light yields - this is just total bullshit. I found it to be pretty much like HPS - it's strain based as long as they're getting enough quality light. I've had rock hard buds to very solid (have some this time you'd probably never think were from LEDs due to density) to medium to lighter... the only difference is strain/pheno. If all you ever get from LEDs is fluffy buds, something in your grow is fucked - light, environment, I dunno, but it wasn't due to being LED vs HPS. My (multiple) 240s spread out put out bigger nugs that are just as solid as my old 600w HPS when that was all I was growing with.
A 240w is going to grow plants like a 600w - I know that's what I just said but that's MULTIPLE LEDs. I will say I bet I can put a 240w next to a 400w and get as good or better yields out of the LED... but I wouldn't expect it as a rule or market it :)
Not really geared towards very large, commercial gardens in terms of ventilation.

I really like LEDs, but they are pricey. I'll be honest and say maybe the only reason I'm thinking of a 1K HPS is that to buy equivalent LED is going to cost around $1.5-2K and I dunno if I'm prepared to spend that right now :)

So you had people break in to your OP?
Oh yea,You need to try the Shoreline,Amazing stuff.:weed:

Beech
Nah just have had a lot of visitors to my house in the last week I had to rip down the old harvest early and then move around my veg plants and hide them this week more than once and really clean up to make sure things. I thought you weren't really happy with your shorelines I guess they turned out better than you thought :) I'm gonna be taking cuttings pretty quick here... hint hint hint :)

Subbing up early for this! Seeing grows like this make me want to kick baby seals because I can't play. LOL

Timewreck is a beast from what I have seen on the nerd. Beautiful pics Reef!
Yes I'm really looking forward to seeing if it gets even better from clone since it wasn't too mature when it went into flower the first time. Sympathize on seeing other grows and feeling frustration because it's not yours... i'd love to travel around visiting other people's gardens :)
 

Mithrandir420

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The Solis Tec ballasts are really nice, if you do go with a 1k HPS. I have a 600 in veg next to a 600 maggie that just had it's cap replaced. Even with a year old bulb it's noticeably brighter than the maggie with the new bulb. I am planning on replacing all my ballasts with digi's. Solis Tecs if I can afford them.
 

ReefBongwell

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Thanks Java it's gonna be really rocking in there come the end of July and first half of August :) I can't wait.... this is the first time I've grown something for the second time that I reallly liked before but lost the originals... I miss ace of spades, and i'm looking forward to having a really good cut of her pretty sure I'll find at least one in six that's special if not I got another 10-pack on standby ready to roll at any time :) I'm gonna wait until this batch gets through their first run from clone before I pop any more though. I just loooooove the smell of A.ce of Spades... like fragrant big red/strawberry soda... and the purple phenos are just beautiful. Make ya silly stoned and feeling like you're on opium too -- awesome to listen to music on really loud.

I never heard of those Mith what's great about them? I got a lumatek 600w digital sitting around but really I don't know enough about ballasts to know what makes one of the fancier ones better than a run of the mill lumatek :) Then again this is the guy who's running blackstars hahaha not exactly the rolls royce of LEDs :) Geez I just realized rolls royce references are kind of dated and show my age. I hate when I realize how old I'm getting :)
 

Mithrandir420

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Quiet, bright, and they look sexy! There are two features that are nice though, they have programming in them that senses voltage on the lines and will stagger the start of the lamps. So if you have 4 ballasts in one controller box with one timer they will fire up sequentially with a few second delay. And their 1K Matrix ballasts have a built in timer. Nothing I will use, but it's nice. I wouldn't chuck the Lumateks for them, but since I am going from mag to digi anyway, I might as well get the ones I want. They get good reviews, too.
 

Txchilies

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Here's the ones I'm considering for putting an order in on this coming week - I'm aiming mainly for fruity combined with medical. Will probably pick up 3 10 packs of different TGA strains... maybe a few extra beans of the others as well

TGA Jacks Cleaner 2
TGA Qush
TGA Space Dawg
TGA Jesus OG
TGA Jack Skellington
TGA Third Dimension
TGA Agent Orange
TGA Qleaner

Others in the mix (might do some 2 or 3 seed orders on some of these):
Cali Connection Tahoe OG
Cali Connection 818 Headband
Cali Connection Girl Scout Cookies
Serious AK-47
Reserva Privada Sour Kush
Serious White Russian
Spice of Life Blue Satellite
GranddaddyPurp Grandaddy Purp
GrandaddyPurp Phantom Cookies
Mosca C99 bx1
You've got quite a shopping list there, a couple of the TGA gear I wouldn't mind trying out. I debating weather to go Plushberry or Agent Orange for my next grow. Going to save the other TGA stuff for next summer so I can get it outdoors. Only thing I would add to your list would be JTR.
 

Javadog

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I saw some of the stock shots of the Ace of Spades on their site. Crazy coloration.

The purple looked black.

I am sure that this will be fun. :0)

The only TGA breeds that I am running right now is Qrazy Train. Of all the breeds
in my current Crop, it is supposed the be the fastest. I am at week 3.5 since flip.

Good luck,

JD
 

Bubbagineer

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Thanks Java it's gonna be really rocking in there come the end of July and first half of August :) I can't wait.... this is the first time I've grown something for the second time that I reallly liked before but lost the originals... I miss ace of spades, and i'm looking forward to having a really good cut of her pretty sure I'll find at least one in six that's special if not I got another 10-pack on standby ready to roll at any time :) I'm gonna wait until this batch gets through their first run from clone before I pop any more though. I just loooooove the smell of A.ce of Spades... like fragrant big red/strawberry soda... and the purple phenos are just beautiful. Make ya silly stoned and feeling like you're on opium too -- awesome to listen to music on really loud.

I never heard of those Mith what's great about them? I got a lumatek 600w digital sitting around but really I don't know enough about ballasts to know what makes one of the fancier ones better than a run of the mill lumatek :) Then again this is the guy who's running blackstars hahaha not exactly the rolls royce of LEDs :) Geez I just realized rolls royce references are kind of dated and show my age. I hate when I realize how old I'm getting :)
I'm subbed, hope you don't mind if I spectate? Looks great!! If you think your Blackstars aren't exactly Rolls Royce's, then I think that would put my panels on par with say AMCs Gremlin. Who's dating themselves now lol. Or a Pinto lmao. But they get the job done.

I was thinking, you could put the 1KW light in the cab on a mover and put the LEDs around the perimeter canted inwards a bit. That'd be cool, wish my cab was big enough.
 

SOMEBEECH

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Germination of the beans was a joke,with them being yellowish-green and premature.
After getting them up and growing and cuts taken,They turned out Awesome.

But, I had to bitch to SOS to get another pack of beans cause out of the 1st 5 and only
2 germed.They did send me more Free so TY SOS.
Beech
 
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