Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Groat21

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I am just about ready to mix my soil. The weather is turning warmer here (still down to 40F at night though).

I have an old inflatable pool that is more than large enough for my 70 gallons of soil. I’m just looking for some guidance on the process.

Do I just mix my base mix first, then add the amendments, mix well and wet it down a bit? Then should I cover it up with a tarp? How often should it be turned, and how long should it cook?
 

grilledcheese101

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Checked on my raised bed on wheels up north today, soil is recycled organic coco soil mix, and various layers of other soils. Probably about 3 years old. Ive just been hitting it with weeping willow tree tea and activated labs. Couple seedlings im running in pots with organic top dressing in there aswell. I think i counted 9 seedlings that have popped so far. Not bad for a couple nights of frost. All sorts of cover crop coming up. Also have a freedom dream in there (10/1 cbd/thc) its had a rough life but im sure itll keep truckin20190518_151514_HDR.jpg 20190518_151504_HDR.jpg 20190518_151428_HDR.jpg 20190518_151407_HDR.jpg
 

growslut

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Can someone help me out with the math? I've got good compost with a mixture of pumice and perlite getting prepped for 30 gallon fabric pots, how much amendments should I add to each?

I plan on using:
Oyster meal
Neem Meal
Diatomaceous Earth (silica)
Epson Salt
Bokashi
Humic Acid

Also, is there anything else I should add? Especially to help the plant cope with heat over the 100+ degree summer?
 

outliergenetix

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Can someone help me out with the math? I've got good compost with a mixture of pumice and perlite getting prepped for 30 gallon fabric pots, how much amendments should I add to each?

I plan on using:
Oyster meal
Neem Meal
Diatomaceous Earth (silica)
Epson Salt
Bokashi
Humic Acid

Also, is there anything else I should add? Especially to help the plant cope with heat over the 100+ degree summer?
i wouldn't use epsom salt, use langbenite or something, just my two cents there, also not a fan of DE if you are recycling soil aka re-using it. perhaps look into insect frass with silica if it isn;t too pricey on the large scale you are doing. sorry i cannot provide the answer you are asking for tho
 

grilledcheese101

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Went up north again this afternoon to do some keep up on my compost and the 2x4 raised bed on wheels. The seedlings in the pots are taking off (main difference being they come inside during the night to stay warm) but the raised bed seedlings are extremely stout and ridgid for their size. The freedom dream (biggest plant) has had a rpugh life, was given to me in flower and i put it outside in very early spring. Today i topped it at the last node new growth has started and it is slowly revegging. I have some of my own semi-stabilized bag seed genetics in there aswell. Not sure where the mom/dad came from but the pollen and f2 beans are fuckin solid. Popped 2 seeds 1 was male 1 was fem i crossed those together. Also used the male on a dinafem blue cheese and a super lemon haze auto? Cant remember.
There are 2 blue crosses on the far left, the rest are 5 purples (f2s) and 1 random. Cover crop is also growing nicely. Chives, clover, onions, peppers, whatever will grow really lol. Didnt take a picture but i also crushed a bunch of frozen chilli peppers from last years allotment and spread them across the top soil just to decrease bugs.
 

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grilledcheese101

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Also, is there anything else I should add? Especially to help the plant cope with heat over the 100+ degree summer?
Would just shooting in the dark but maybe a large river rock/stone would work well as a heat/cold sink inside the pot. Id imagine it would get rather cold over night and would battle the radiant heat from the sun as it comes up. Possibly even keep it somewhat warm into the night. Geothermal lol.
 

outliergenetix

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Went up north again this afternoon to do some keep up on my compost and the 2x4 raised bed on wheels. The seedlings in the pots are taking off (main difference being they come inside during the night to stay warm) but the raised bed seedlings are extremely stout and ridgid for their size. The freedom dream (biggest plant) has had a rpugh life, was given to me in flower and i put it outside in very early spring. Today i topped it at the last node new growth has started and it is slowly revegging. I have some of my own semi-stabilized bag seed genetics in there aswell. Not sure where the mom/dad came from but the pollen and f2 beans are fuckin solid. Popped 2 seeds 1 was male 1 was fem i crossed those together. Also used the male on a dinafem blue cheese and a super lemon haze auto? Cant remember.
There are 2 blue crosses on the far left, the rest are 5 purples (f2s) and 1 random. Cover crop is also growing nicely. Chives, clover, onions, peppers, whatever will grow really lol. Didnt take a picture but i also crushed a bunch of frozen chilli peppers from last years allotment and spread them across the top soil just to decrease bugs.
nice!!
 

cocoleveo7686

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So if you mix 1/3 peat, 1/3 aeration, 1/3 compost. Then add amendments, I still have to let the soil cook for a month? Was gonna add mykos and azoz as well. But dont have a month to wait
 

LeddySnips

Member
So if you mix 1/3 peat, 1/3 aeration, 1/3 compost. Then add amendments, I still have to let the soil cook for a month? Was gonna add mykos and azoz as well. But dont have a month to wait
I use compost mixtures as a bottom layer for later established roots to tap into more so then the base mix but if i did i would bake prior to mixing 1:1:1, if the compost itself is already baked as long as you mix the amendments properly and not over do it you should be fine.
I throw amendments through my 1:1:1 mixes at about 700g per 25-30L of mixed soil and only had issues with stuff baking if i left a big clump of stuff not mixed properly.
 

SCJedi

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So if you mix 1/3 peat, 1/3 aeration, 1/3 compost. Then add amendments, I still have to let the soil cook for a month? Was gonna add mykos and azoz as well. But dont have a month to wait
It depends on the amendments. If you're using Coot style a week is fine. If you are using blood and bone meals then let it cook longer
 

hillbill

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I,m pretty conservative on fast N in my recycled mixes. EWC will give a nice start with a few additions. I’ had to use mixes after a few days at times and avoid blood meal and high N guano and not too much Magic (Alfalfa).
 

Unorthodoxy

Active Member
We have chooks and a big bag of crushed Oyster shells for a food supplement - BUT they are 'pullet sized', maybe 1/4", which I think may be too big to use in a SS mix. Should I bother? Maybe I can crush some up with a mortar and pestle? Anyone have experience with that?

So far I have some used soil,
compost,
Perlite,
Bone Meal
Blood meal
Kelp meal
Alfalfa meal
Worm castings
And I'm going to add:
Neem meal,
Azomite
Maybe some crab or Crustacean meal.

Does this sound like a decent recipe?
 
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