Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

hillbill

hillbill

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I’ve been starting seeds in used mix plus some of my castings and fish bone meal. The used mix seems to have a lot of minerals and small amounts of NPK which works as well as anything for getting them started.
 
Strudelheim

Strudelheim

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I have been starting seedlings in jiffy. Once all sprouted I plant straight into full strength soil mix that was cooking for just 1 week. Not a hiccup noticed.

Heres the mix for reference. I would call this fairly rich in amendments.

NPK MACRO MEALS
[]1 Cup Kelp (1-0-2)
[]1/2 Cup Bone (4-10-0)
[]1/2 Cup Fishbone (4-18-0)
[]1/2 Cup Neem (4-3-2)
[]1/2 Cup Insect Frass (3-1-3)
[]1/3 Cup Alfalfa (3-1-2)
[]1/3 Cup Soymeal (7-2-2)

MINERAL
[]2 Cup Granite Grit (0-0-3)
[]1 Cup Diatomaceous Earth
[]1 Cup Glacial Rock Dust (0-0-1)
[]1/8 Cup Basalt (0-0-1)
[]1/8 Cup Azomite

CALCIUM
[]1/3 Cup Gypsum
[]1/3 Cup Dolomite

OTHER
[]1 Cup Dehydrated Molasses

BASE
1 CF = 8 LOOSE FILLED GALLON

5 Gallon Recycled Soil Mix
(33% Peat, 33% Organic Matter, 33% Perlite)

+
.5 Gallon EWC
.5 Gallon Compost
.5 Gallon Guinea/Horse Manure
.5 Gallon Vermiculite
.5 Gallon Expanded Clay
.5 Gallon Perlite
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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Strudelheim said:
The heat is just the microbial action taking place from the added materials. I find that it is slightly warm for a week or so. But have planted into this without any issues right away as well. I think people are more so concerned about the added amendments becoming available that longer is better. But if you have decent soil that is being reused then there should be enough in there to give what it needs until the rest gets broken down.

But yes aerating and mixing up your soil will aerate it and cool it some temporarily before it heats up again. the whole process is similar to a compost really. the same thing is happening. just on a different scale with different ingredients.
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I didn't mean hot as in heat I meant hot as in too many nutrients!!!
 
2easy

2easy

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Anyone in here actually doing no till or is this not really the place for that. I see a lot of organic soil mixes but its not really what im into.
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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2easy said:
I have my technique down just like hanging around like minded people. You know us no tillers are higher beings so its nice to not have to speak with all those lesser growers lol jk
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I don't agree about the higher beings but what I have learned is the organic and no till guys are a lot more willing to help usually a lot less drama! And just over all nicer ppl! I honestly don't even go outside the organic section any more too many ppl are dicks about simple things!
 
2easy

2easy

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Greenthumbs256 said:
I don't agree about the higher beings but what I have learned is the organic and no till guys are a lot more willing to help usually a lot less drama! And just over all nicer ppl! I honestly don't even go outside the organic section any more too many ppl are dicks about simple things!
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I was just kidding. I actually grow some plants in coco with synthetic so im not an elitest lol
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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Greenthumbs256 said:
Can anyone answer this question for me!

If a soil mix is too hot can you just cook it for an extra month or so to make it less hot? Or will it not change no matter how long you cook?
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So can anyone answer that ^^^ question for me and by hot I don't mean temperature I mean the soil has too heavy of a mix!
 
Strudelheim

Strudelheim

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Greenthumbs256 said:
I didn't mean hot as in heat I meant hot as in too many nutrients!!!
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Thats actually why many people interchange the meaning or confuse the two. Nitrogen is food for bacteria and they become active, then the soil gets warm. If your mix is very nutrient dense, letting it sit for another month, isn't going to change that. Whats the problem youve been seeing? I suggest to anyone to simply experiment and do side by sides. Only way to really learn in this hobby. Knowledge, reading and theory from online only gets you so far. put one plant in the rich mix. Then dilute some 50/50 with peat/perlite and put one into that. see how the 2 make out. I did that with my last Agent orange plants. I did 2 plants full strength, and 2 at 66% strength. So far both are performing identical.
 
SCJedi

SCJedi

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Greenthumbs256 said:
I don't really understand your question?
I use incet frass??

But I thought that was just as an extra and I didn't really have to use it? Am I missing something???
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Nope. I was just wondering what kind of insects and where you were buying it. What brand?
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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SCJedi said:
Nope. I was just wondering what kind of insects and where you were buying it. What brand?
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Ooo OK lol I was lost there for a second!
I haven't bought any yet bc I'm broke and have bills but I plan to order from arbico! Have heard a few ppl swear by them!
 
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