Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Strudelheim

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I appreciate the reply. Langbeinite is the one I am most unsure about. I like your idea of cutting to 1/8 cup. Adding more is easy, taking back excess not possible. I know too much potassium can cause all kinds of problems. I was also thinking about maybe adding a bit more Kelp than 1/2 cup maybe going 3/4. I see some are using 1 cup. I am fortunate that I can get almost everything on my list from one store, its a bit of a drive but makes it much easier. Hopefully you can get yours soon. Nice avatar pic, Maine Coon?

Hahaha, no just a regular cat afaik but your not the first person to have mentioned that so maybe it is in her genetics. She was still a kitten then.

Yes Langbeinite is very soluble too. Kelp has many benefits and low npk, so I myself bumped it up to 1 cup.
 

NoMoreBottles

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I picked up everything I (think I) need, except for Gypsum and Basalt which is on its way from KIS Organics. There is a ranch nearby with dozens of Alpaca's and I am going to try to get some manure from them. Also have access to lots of rabbit poop. Would those two be a better choice than mushroom compost, which would be in a bag from store? Was going to make 1/3 of mix a combo of cow manure (which is also from store), mushroom compost and EWC. So far I have per cubic foot

1/3 Sphagnum Peat
1/3 Perlite
1/3 combo of cow and mushroom manure, EWC

1/2 cup Fish Bone Meal 3-16-0
1/2 cup Fish Meal 8-6-0
1/2 cup Crab Meal 4-3-0
1/2 cup Neem Seed Meal 6-1-2
1 cup Kelp Meal 1-0.1-2
1/8 cup Langbeinite 0-0-22
2/3 cup Oyster Shell
1 cup Gypsum
1 cup Basalt
 

Aolelon

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How do I keep my pot as from going anaerobic if I just potted into 5 gal and my plants are young? I put them in their final pots, 5 gal and they are about a week old. But I dont want to keep the whole medium wet, or can I? Should I have gone into smaller pots first and just transplanted up when ready? received_1639884086060823.jpeg
 

Strudelheim

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dude lol...... Usually you want to upot every 2 weeks. I do 1G, 2G,3G then flip. But fabric pots and ROLS that might not be the golden rule. But that is the general rule. for example your wasting 90% off light thats just hitting soil. those could be under fluros right now in 1 Gallo pots.
If your a newbie you might have overwatering issues. a nice wet dry cycle every few days is a good first goal to shoot for when starting off. someone else can chime in if they like, thats just what ive learned works good for me.roots shoot to the edgge of the container and sprial around the outside. uppoting them gives them a whole new outter edge to fill out. I water every 3-5 days when they are nice and dry throughout the whole pot and light.
 
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Aolelon

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dude lol...... yes you want to transplant up in stages. Not going to go into detail about that here as you already guessed. if you just planted them in there I would carefully move them into a one gallon. that will be good for 2 weeks. then a 2 or 3 gallon for 2 to 3 weeks. thats just me though
Nah they were in a smaller pot, I just put them into those ones earlier in the night before thinking it might not be best.
 

Greenthumbs256

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How do I keep my pot as from going anaerobic if I just potted into 5 gal and my plants are young? I put them in their final pots, 5 gal and they are about a week old. But I dont want to keep the whole medium wet, or can I? Should I have gone into smaller pots first and just transplanted up when ready? View attachment 4151005
I start in red solo cups, then a few weeks later some bigger plastic pots still less than a gallon size (sorry don't know the true size) then I transplant them into their third and final home between 3 and 10g smart pots!
 

Greenthumbs256

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Can anyone help me identify these bad boys! Had to have a buddy of mine post it to YouTube in order for me to be able to post a link here!



 

Greenthumbs256

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Nah they were in a smaller pot, I just put them into those ones earlier in the night before thinking it might not be best.
Those plants are so tiny they should be in solo cups of something of similar pots for at least a few more weeks should be a month or more be froe they see a pot that big! Not a whole lot you can do your going to have some problems!
 

Aolelon

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Those plants are so tiny they should be in solo cups of something of similar pots for at least a few more weeks should be a month or more be froe they see a pot that big! Not a whole lot you can do your going to have some problems!
Well u can put plants in their final pots of any size as long as you dont over water. But I was thinking because I'm doing a ROLS it's probably different as I want to keep the soil alive and a pot this big I would have to keep letting dry out as to not drown the plants.
 

Aolelon

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And they were in smaller cups, I just didnt like the ones they were in, they were the cardboard pots you can plant straight into the ground. That's all I had atm, I'll just stick em in a 1/2 gal for a couple weeks
 

Greenthumbs256

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Well u can put plants in their final pots of any size as long as you dont over water. But I was thinking because I'm doing a ROLS it's probably different as I want to keep the soil alive and a pot this big I would have to keep letting dry out as to not drown the plants.
Exactly which is why you kinda can't start the plant in any size! Either your micro life will lessen bc of the dry pot or the plant will drown bc it's too wet it's really hard to get a happy medium when the pots so big and the plants so small!
 

Strudelheim

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even with rols or no till people preveg in smaller containers and then put into the final bed with a fairly established root system.

yogurt containers are a good size to start with :)
 

Greenthumbs256

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Can anyone answer this question for me!

If a soil mix is too hot can you just cook it for an extra month or so to make it less hot? Or will it not change no matter how long you cook?
 

hillbill

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I start in red solo cups, then a few weeks later some bigger plastic pots still less than a gallon size (sorry don't know the true size) then I transplant them into their third and final home between 3 and 10g smart pots!
Similar regime here and I finish in 2 gallon waste baskets. Hard to not overwater with tiny seedlings in big pots and mine would not take the richness of my mix.
 

Strudelheim

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Can anyone answer this question for me!

If a soil mix is too hot can you just cook it for an extra month or so to make it less hot? Or will it not change no matter how long you cook?
The heat is just the microbial action taking place from the added materials. I find that it is slightly warm for a week or so. But have planted into this without any issues right away as well. I think people are more so concerned about the added amendments becoming available that longer is better. But if you have decent soil that is being reused then there should be enough in there to give what it needs until the rest gets broken down.

But yes aerating and mixing up your soil will aerate it and cool it some temporarily before it heats up again. the whole process is similar to a compost really. the same thing is happening. just on a different scale with different ingredients.
 
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