Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[Greenthumbs256]

So it is safe to move the girls back into the room it's been about 30 min and everything has been whiped and cleaned also I mopped with a swifter all thsee chems have me worried but my plants are chilling in my living room lol! And I smoke

 

[SCJedi]

It should be fine now. Bleach just stinks. I would just wipe the floor with a wet towel followed by a dry one to get any chlorine residual up if you have fabric pots on the floor

 

[Greenthumbs256]

It should be fine now. Bleach just stinks. I would just wipe the floor with a wet towel followed by a dry one to get any chlorine residual up if you have fabric pots on the floor

I do have fabric pots but they are in saucers! So no direct contact

 

[Greenthumbs256]

i love my CXB3590s at 3500k. Got mine from Timber and will be getting more. I am converting to LED slowly (since as you said they are so spendy) currently using a 600 W HPS AND a 5 COB bar of the cobs mentioned before. Eventually I want to have 3-5 of those bars in a 5x5 space.

I have 2000 watts of HPS gear just sitting in my garage but I chose to build a $600
4 x qb288 fixture instead. I'm just wanted to give LEDs a try. So far I'm pretty happy with it but I haven't run it through its 12/12 paces yet.

You guys mind sharing some pics of your set up! I'm always looking for ideas lol and I want to convert to led for cost and heat issues it's just is a lot of cost here some pics of my veg room and the only leds I own lol they are t5 replacements were kinda expensive but use less watts and makes a good spectrum when mixed with the reg t5 for veg!

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

Here are a few pics it is a just a bar with 5 cobs spaced 12 inches on center. I used it in veg for these then moved it to the flower room where it will stay. Will be adding more bars a foot or so away (so then I have a cob each square foot is the goal probably over kill lol) as I am able to get them.

 

[Og grumble]

So i went up into the mountains and picked a bunch of dandelions. I was gonna dry them and grind them up into a powder. Should i top dress it or make a tea? How much should i use?

 

[Greenthumbs256]

I'm interested in this ^^^

 

[Strudelheim]

I have dandelions in my backyard. Your saying I shouldn't run them over with my lawn mower?

 

[Og grumble]

I have dandelions in my backyard. Your saying I shouldn't run them over with my lawn mower?

If your yard hasnt been treated with any chemicals, then pick them bitches. I know they are full of goodies. I know specifically Rising moon used to talk about using dandelions in botanical teas all the time but i haven't seen him around in a couple years. And all of his posts i can find dont specify an amount to use. A bunch of the other organics guys know whats up too im just hoping one of em pops in here. Im sure you cant burn your plants with a dandelion tea so im just gonna go for it. Ill come back with results.

 

[Strudelheim]

Whats the process for a herbal type of tea? do you let it ferment for a few weeks or boil it? I don't imagine popping a cup of it into a compost tea that is bubbled for 24 hours will make anything soluble and release into the tea. At best I would imagine some things are released when blending the crap out of it. the little particles stay in the tea that gets watered and mixes into the soil and breaks down quickly due to its size.

 

[Og grumble]

Whats the process for a herbal type of tea? do you let it ferment for a few weeks or boil it? I don't imagine popping a cup of it into a compost tea that is bubbled for 24 hours will make anything soluble and release into the tea. At best I would imagine some things are released when blending the crap out of it. the little particles stay in the tea that gets watered and mixes into the soil and breaks down quickly due to its size.

Pretty much spot on. Everything im seeing online says the best way to go about it is to stick it in a bucket with a lid and some water for a few weeks, stirring occasionally. Its supposed to stink so dont skip the lid. Then you can dilute it from there. But i hate the idea of anaerobic shit getting to my girls so im just gonna turn the shit to dust and water it in.

 

[MrKnotty]

Honestly you can top dress them if you want, you can make a tea with them, or ferment them. All are really awesome. If you picked enough to do all three that's what you really want. When I make a tea with dandelion I use 1-2 cups per 5 gallon. Bubble that with some of my EWC, Kelp, Molasses for 2 days. Another tea I do is just letting dandelion sit for 3 days (1-2 cups per 5 gallon). I stir it a few times a day, maybe add a little yarrow , maybe not. I don't let it sit for more than 3 days though. When I ferment dandelion I put a bunch of dandelions in a food processor with water and blend them up. I then transfer that to a half gallon mason jar and add about a tablespoon or 2 of molasses. Let that sit for a month, open jar everyday though. Strain after 30 days, use at a table spoon per gallon. Maybe less maybe more depending on how strong it comes out.

Peace

So i went up into the mountains and picked a bunch of dandelions. I was gonna dry them and grind them up into a powder. Should i top dress it or make a tea? How much should i use?

 

[Og grumble]

Pe

Honestly you can top dress them if you want, you can make a tea with them, or ferment them. All are really awesome. If you picked enough to do all three that's what you really want. When I make a tea with dandelion I use 1-2 cups per 5 gallon. Bubble that with some of my EWC, Kelp, Molasses for 2 days. Another tea I do is just letting dandelion sit for 3 days (1-2 cups per 5 gallon). I stir it a few times a day, maybe add a little yarrow , maybe not. I don't let it sit for more than 3 days though. When I ferment dandelion I put a bunch of dandelions in a food processor with water and blend them up. I then transfer that to a half gallon mason jar and add about a tablespoon or 2 of molasses. Let that sit for a month, open jar everyday though. Strain after 30 days, use at a table spoon per gallon. Maybe less maybe more depending on how strong it comes out.

Peace

Awesome! Thanks for the info. It is very much appreciated.

 

[Strudelheim]

Honestly you can top dress them if you want, you can make a tea with them, or ferment them. All are really awesome. If you picked enough to do all three that's what you really want. When I make a tea with dandelion I use 1-2 cups per 5 gallon. Bubble that with some of my EWC, Kelp, Molasses for 2 days. Another tea I do is just letting dandelion sit for 3 days (1-2 cups per 5 gallon). I stir it a few times a day, maybe add a little yarrow , maybe not. I don't let it sit for more than 3 days though. When I ferment dandelion I put a bunch of dandelions in a food processor with water and blend them up. I then transfer that to a half gallon mason jar and add about a tablespoon or 2 of molasses. Let that sit for a month, open jar everyday though. Strain after 30 days, use at a table spoon per gallon. Maybe less maybe more depending on how strong it comes out.

Peace

Thanks, that is very good info indeed. I will probably blend it then and add it to my weekly or biweekly compost teas and let it bubble for 2 days. I will also experiment with fermenting, Its so new to me I don't even know what benefits it has compared to tossing raw material fresh into the tea.

I will report back any exciting new findings!

 

[NoMoreBottles]

Can anyone give me some advice on mixing up my first batch of soil? I am growing indoors in 7 and 10 gal fabric pots under cob's and quantum boards. My tap water (from well) comes out at 42 ppm. Tired of using bagged soils and bottle nutes and hoping to be able to use just water. After lots of reading on this forum I have come up with a list and would very much appreciate any advice on what, if anything, to add or remove. Have not bought anything yet and the brand of amendments I can get locally is Down To Earth.

1/3 Sphagnum Peat
1/3 Perlite
1/3 combo of cow and mushroom manure, EWC

Fish Bone Meal 3-16-0
Fish Meal 8-6-0
Crab Meal 4-3-0
Neem Seed Meal 6-1-2
Kelp Meal 1-0.1-2
Langbeinite 0-0-22
Oyster Shell
Gypsum
Basalt

 

[Strudelheim]

Looks pretty good for your first mix! It will just be matter of how much of each you add, and how good your manure/compost/ewc are that determine your outcome of the first run.

Here is my mix I am putting together next week. I don't have Down to earth brand in canada so I had to source from many independant retails, most I got local in bulk, and a few I had to order online.

NPK MACRO MEALS
[]1 Cup Kelp (1-0-2)
[]1/2 Cup Bone (4-10-0)
[]1/2 Cup Fishbone (4-18-0)
[]1/2 Cup Neem (4-3-2)
[]1/2 Cup Insect Frass (3-1-3)
[]1/3 Cup Alfalfa (3-1-2)
[]1/3 Cup Soymeal (7-2-2)

MINERAL
[]2 Cup Granite Grit (0-0-3)
[]1 Cup Diatomaceous Earth
[]1 Cup Glacial Rock Dust (0-0-1)
[]1/8 Cup Basalt (0-0-1)
[]1/8 Cup Azomite

CALCIUM
[]1/3 Cup Gypsum
[]1/3 Cup Dolomite

OTHER
[]1 Cup Dehydrated Molasses

BASE
1 CF = 8 LOOSE FILLED GALLON

5 Gallon Recycled Soil Mix (33% Peat, 33% Organic/Humic Matter, 33% Perlite)
+
.5 Gallon EWC
.5 Gallon Compost
.5 Gallon Guinea/Horse Manure
.5 Gallon Vermiculite
.5 Gallon Expanded Clay
.5 Gallon Perlite

 

[NoMoreBottles]

Looks pretty good for your first mix! It will just be matter of how much of each you add, and how good your manure/compost/ewc are that determine your outcome of the first run.

Here is my mix I am putting together next week. I don't have Down to earth brand in canada so I had to source from many independant retails, most I got local in bulk, and a few I had to order online.

NPK MACRO MEALS
[]1 Cup Kelp (1-0-2)
[]1/2 Cup Bone (4-10-0)
[]1/2 Cup Fishbone (4-18-0)
[]1/2 Cup Neem (4-3-2)
[]1/2 Cup Insect Frass (3-1-3)
[]1/3 Cup Alfalfa (3-1-2)
[]1/3 Cup Soymeal (7-2-2)

MINERAL
[]2 Cup Granite Grit (0-0-3)
[]1 Cup Diatomaceous Earth
[]1 Cup Glacial Rock Dust (0-0-1)
[]1/8 Cup Basalt (0-0-1)
[]1/8 Cup Azomite

CALCIUM
[]1/3 Cup Gypsum
[]1/3 Cup Dolomite

OTHER
[]1 Cup Dehydrated Molasses

BASE
1 CF = 8 LOOSE FILLED GALLON

5 Gallon Recycled Soil Mix (33% Peat, 33% Organic/Humic Matter, 33% Perlite)
+
.5 Gallon EWC
.5 Gallon Compost
.5 Gallon Guinea/Horse Manure
.5 Gallon Vermiculite
.5 Gallon Expanded Clay
.5 Gallon Perlite

The amounts is where I could definitely use some help. Per cubic foot of my peat, perlite and compost/ewc mix I was thinking of adding the following:

1/2 cup Fish Bone Meal 3-16-0
1/2 cup Fish Meal 8-6-0
1/2 cup Crab Meal 4-3-0
1/2 cup Neem Seed Meal 6-1-2
1/2 cup Kelp Meal 1-0.1-2
1/4 cup Langbeinite 0-0-22
1/2 cup Oyster Shell
1 cup Gypsum
1 cup Basalt

 

[SCJedi]

My base mix is:
1/3 peat
1/3 Bu's Blend
1/3 GS-1 (I struggled sourcing pumice)

I used the COOT's nutrient pack from Tad at KIS organics. To that I added 1C Biolive and 1C Fishbone meal per 15g of soil.

I do have a pretty in depth veg tea I feed them once a week but the recipe brews 300 gallons at a time. I've scaled it back for some smaller uses.

I just compared pics of my plants against a buddy with the sister plants. He is using FFOF and a few dry nutes.

Can you guess which is mine?

 

[Strudelheim]

The amounts is where I could definitely use some help. Per cubic foot of my peat, perlite and compost/ewc mix I was thinking of adding the following:

1/2 cup Fish Bone Meal 3-16-0
1/2 cup Fish Meal 8-6-0
1/2 cup Crab Meal 4-3-0
1/2 cup Neem Seed Meal 6-1-2
1/2 cup Kelp Meal 1-0.1-2
1/4 cup Langbeinite 0-0-22
1/2 cup Oyster Shell
1 cup Gypsum
1 cup Basalt

That looks ok to me, seems on par with most other recipes as far as amounts. I heard langbeineite is strong and can burn. Maybe start that one with just 1/8. That should be enough for you to get your mag. Ive been trying to source it myself and its on backorder still a month later!

 

[NoMoreBottles]

That looks ok to me, seems on par with most other recipes as far as amounts. I heard langbeineite is strong and can burn. Maybe start that one with just 1/8. That should be enough for you to get your mag. Ive been trying to source it myself and its on backorder still a month later!

I appreciate the reply. Langbeinite is the one I am most unsure about. I like your idea of cutting to 1/8 cup. Adding more is easy, taking back excess not possible. I know too much potassium can cause all kinds of problems. I was also thinking about maybe adding a bit more Kelp than 1/2 cup maybe going 3/4. I see some are using 1 cup. I am fortunate that I can get almost everything on my list from one store, its a bit of a drive but makes it much easier. Hopefully you can get yours soon. Nice avatar pic, Maine Coon?