Yeah dude, thats what I'm talking about. I'm on my 2nd grow, and have come to notice we are mostly new here. But I have had the buddies of course, and so on. My first grow was destroyed, but this one is going great. So if you have height restrictions flower now, if not just flower when they are a 3rd of your space. Of course that doesn't go into methods and the such. U can use LST to pull more out of less. It does work to. My lower shoots are looking crazier then my main cola on my trained widow.