Question about freezing urine.

Discussion in 'Toke N Talk' started by dzp, Nov 10, 2013.

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    dzp

    dzp Member

    Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, I was looking through the forums list and this seemed like the best place to ask this.

    First off I want to apologize if this has already been asked. I've searched thorough the forums and have found a little information about it but not everything that I quite need. My job is going to start doing random drug testing and I quit smoking last sunday to clean up and freeze some urine. To sum this up and keep this short, basically I want to freeze about 10 half gallon bottles of urine and thaw them out one time a month and fill up 30 little 3oz bottles so I can get up and just grab one and go in the morning. I know I can't piss out a half gallon at once so I was thinking maybe I can piss in a smaller 20oz bottle or something, then dump it into the half gallon bottle and put it in the fridge and continue the process until that half gallon is filled, then put it in the freezer. Once I get all 10 jugs filled I will sit one in the fridge to let it thaw. Once thawed I will proceed to fill up each of the 30 3oz containers and then put them and the remainder of the urine left back into the freezer. So the urine will never get to room temp until the day I pull out one of the 3oz containers, which will take at least 2 hours to thaw. I'm going to pull it out at about 5:30am everyday, it won't get to room temp until about 8:00am and I get off work at 2:30pm, so it will be at room temp for about 6 hours or so. BTW I have a seperate freezer for all of this so it's not going to be around my food or anything.



    Will this work?
     
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    dirtyho1968

    dirtyho1968 Well-Known Member

    Sub'd.​…….
     
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    dzp

    dzp Member

    What do you mean?
     
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    dirtyho1968

    dirtyho1968 Well-Known Member

    I am curious to the answer to your question so I subscribed to your thread (sub'd).
     
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    cannabineer

    cannabineer Ursus marijanus

    Why not freeze each individual harvest in small bottles or bags at once? Then you don't have the two-phase <cough> pisser of refrigerating and then freezing. Also you get some variation between lots, which is good. Color-code the bags or bottles ... just not yellow ...
     
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    dzp

    dzp Member

    Oh okay. I was confused :P

    It sucks that I have to go this route but then again I'm the type of person who doesn't want to quit smoking just yet and I like to get high on breaks at work. Personally I don't see why it wouldn't work but I don't know as much as some of you guys do one here. I've heard the urine stays good for a year or so so I was planning on making enough for around 10 months or so (Just to be safe don't wanna do the exact year mark). And just repeat this process every year. It's nothing to me to quit smoking for a month plus it will help my tolerance out a bit.
     
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    racerboy71

    racerboy71 bud bootlegger

    Does frozen piss work for u.a.'s c/n?
    Figured you living in the land of the ice and snow would be an expert.. :)
     
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    cannabineer

    cannabineer Ursus marijanus

    You have to thaw it first ~running in circles shrieling laughter~

    [​IMG]
     
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    dzp

    dzp Member


    Was thinking about doing this as well, but then I would need enough 3oz bottles for a year supply which would be around 250ish or so (Subtracted the weekends, holidays, and vacations from the 365 days a year). That wouldn't be a problem though but I was wondering if it would be a better idea to vacuum seal the half gallon containers before a freeze them every time.

    I've sub'd several times in the past but I have never refrigerated or froze my samples they were all gave to be an hour or so before test time, so I'm kinda new to this other than what I have read on forums in the past month. I've heard they need to be vacuumed sealed if you want them to last close to the year mark when freezing. I thought it would be a little easier to vacuum seal the big jugs and not the 3oz containers since all of the 3oz containers would never get a month old. I will be discarding all of them after work each day.

    Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on anything else well. Like I said I'm new to the freezing thing, and I'm here to learn =D
     
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    racerboy71

    racerboy71 bud bootlegger

    Why not go with a synthetic like quick fix?

    That way if.someone happens to.open your fridge, they don't look at you oddly?
     
  11. i have been alerted by my narcotics agent mother in the past that the only legitimate way to pass a screened drug test, (which you will be taking for a job. where they send it in and test the entire chemical makeup of your urine and compare it to urine that is neutral of all drugs) is to abstain from the substance. that being said, the delta 9 THC compound found in urine can still remain active and noticeable in ANY urine, frozen or not, for anywhere from 5 days (depending on diet, weight, and exercise as well as metabolism) to 2 months.

    i wouldn't suggest freezing urine because thawing it out will be a mess. and there will be many different layers of excrement that will have partially fermented and it will be irrelevant rather or not the pee you turn in is frozen. they will test the thawed out pee, which before the test you will have to somehow warm up to avoid getting caught, and after 3 days to a week in the lab conclude that you urine does in fact contain THC, and will have been tampered with. which will allude them both to the fact of drug use and to the fact that you tried to hide it.

    AND ALL THIS OF COURSE will all depend on either the 1 whole month of abstinence or one solid week of high cardio, high metabolism work outs for over 5 hours a day you will have to do to rid yourself of urine traceable THC before hand. did you do that? modern drug testing can also test for CBD concentration which only applied to cannabis and a small handful of other, not addictive, non psychoactive drugs. you're best bet is to schedule 1-2 week periods i which you assume you will be drug tested and ABSTAIN FOR THOSE WEEKS. include very high matabollism work out to burn fat production which stores THC and releases it into the urine once it is no longer useful.

    i used to get tested on the 15th and the 31st religiously at my automotive job and "tricked" the techs at the lab each time this way for over a year :3 good luck! hope this helps.
     
  12. think about it like this. yes, clean pee froze would pass a test. but to thaw out urine you're either going to have to heat it, or let it thaw out by air temperature. EITHER way the urine will not be pure and EITHER way the lab will know you did something to alter it. which if i was in a management position would be near fact that someone is using and i would fire them for liability. (done it before, and have been in that position)
     
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    dzp

    dzp Member


    I also have a 2oz quick fix (The newest batch out) for backup, but I'm not sure if I can trust it 100% or not. I've only read on forums about it, some people say it works, some don't so I'd rather do it this way and have 2 shots at passing a test if needed. The refrigerator is extra and it's kept out in my 2 1/2 car garage and is being used for nothing at the moment. We have a mini fridge in the garage as well which we use for drinks ect. This fridge is going to be used for nothing but urine and nobody ever really goes in my garage except me and my girl. I've taken a 2oz bottle of quickfix, a 3oz bottle of urine, 2 hand warmers, and a digital thermometer to work with me and it's kept on my all day without anyone ever questioning me about my pockets being bulged out. I can also empty my pockets as well at the facility and still have this stuff on me as well without them knowing.
     
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    racerboy71

    racerboy71 bud bootlegger

    I've used quick fix probably close to 20 times easily and have never had an issue doing so..
    I'd surly trust synthetic over frozen then dethawed urine any day of the week.
     
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    racerboy71

    racerboy71 bud bootlegger

    And why the need to the digital thermometer?
    Quick fix has a temp strip right on the bottle.. keep it in the green, and you're golden...
     
  16. i just know for a fact this wont work but whatever.
     
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    dzp

    dzp Member

    Keep the comments coming guys. A little more information I forgot to add.

    I have been clean for a week now and I'm not planning on freezing my piss at this moment. I plan on waiting another 4 weeks (Which will be a total of 5 weeks weed free) while doing a bunch of exercising, eating and drinking right. I'm 5'11 and weigh about 170ish pounds not really fat at all. I know I might be overdoing it a bit but I'm just trying to be on the safe side here. As for if the drug test ever came down, our drug testing facility doesn't open until 8:00am. I will be taking out a 3oz frozen sample from the freezer every morning and keeping it on me the whole day. It gets completely liquid form at about 8:00am (Still cold but not frozen) and I get off work at 2:30. So the sample will never be at room temperature for more than 6 hours. Hell I doubt from 1:00pm - 2:30pm they wouldn't send me down there so you can pretty much say it will never be at room temp for more than 5 hours. Our drug testing facility uses dipstick testing as well. Nothing ever gets sent to a lab.

    Please correct me on anything, Like I said I'm here to learn and you guys are being real helpful =)
     
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    shrxhky420

    shrxhky420 Well-Known Member

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    SH420
     
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    racerboy71

    racerboy71 bud bootlegger

    How much do you smoke?
    A week is much too short if you smoke a decent amount of bud.. closer to a month is more realistic ..
    You.also.don't want to exorcise much now if.you're planning on using the urine any time soon as THC is fat soluble and exorcising burns fat, releasing THC into ur system..
    I'd get a home test kit from cvs and test the urine before freezing it for sure.. I'd also not freeze urine and go with a synthetic however..
     
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    cannabineer

    cannabineer Ursus marijanus

    You need 250 urine samples per annum?????
     

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