Problems occuring on only 1/4 plants.

Pichael98

Pichael98

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Hey guys, the heading says it all, just had a bit of a look online and I cant pinpoint exactly what the problem is.

Ive got 4 plants, 3 different strains and the problems shown in the photos are only occuring on my white widow.

At first I thought it may just be stress because when I transplanted I didnt have enough coco mix to fill a 5 gal pot for it so I transfered into a 3gal pot as its roots were getting dense as hell.

Eventually I bought more coco/perlite to mix, and transplanted again into the 5gal pot about a week or two later. Was a different coco brand as I bought my last stuff online and they didnt have any stock.

But stress didnt seem right as its been atleast 2 weeks since the symptons first presented themselves.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Pichael98

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hotrodharley said:
Have you examined closely for bugs?
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As closely as ive been able to, ill have another look in the morning but I dont think its pests/bugs as its more of a whole plant effected rather than specific stalks/leaves. Ill take some more photos in the morning too.
 
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Pichael98 said:
As closely as ive been able to, ill have another look in the morning but I dont think its pests/bugs as its more of a whole plant effected rather than specific stalks/leaves. Ill take some more photos in the morning too.
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Broadmites are very hard to see.
 
Pichael98

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And im gonna take the guess that I shouldnt bother flipping to flower until I know they're gone?
And whats the best option there to deal with them.
My easiest option with access is neem oil but ive done a fair bit of reading about it makes your stuff taste like shit, but surely itll be fine if I dont use it after flower?
 
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Why are you considering a pest treatment when you don't even know you have them? You should visually identify the pests first. Don't throw s*** against the wall to see if it sticks. You most likely answered your question already. You used a coco brand that you've never used before. Was it washed prior to using? Is it buffered? Did you buffer it? The addition of coco that is not ready to be planted in will do exactly what you're seeing; ask me how I know.
 
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CannaCountry said:
Why are you considering a pest treatment when you don't even know you have them? You should visually identify the pests first. Don't throw s*** against the wall to see if it sticks. You most likely answered your question already. You used a coco brand that you've never used before. Was it washed prior to using? Is it buffered? Did you buffer it? The addition of coco that is not ready to be planted in will do exactly what you're seeing; ask me how I know.
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I havent made a decision im just asking questions on what to do for what. I did flush this coco before using it, including 30% perlite.

What do I do to fix this issue?

Thanks
 
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What kind of water did you rehydrate the coco with...your tap, R/O, Distilled? Was it just plain water, in other words no nutrients in it and what was the pH? What was the water you 'rinsed' with; the same as what you soaked the coco in? How much did you rinse it? If you used two gallons of coco, how much water did you use to 'rinse' it with? I'm not trying to be an ass...but it's important to be specific.
 
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CannaCountry said:
What kind of water did you rehydrate the coco with...your tap, R/O, Distilled? Was it just plain water, in other words no nutrients in it and what was the pH? What was the water you 'rinsed' with; the same as what you soaked the coco in? How much did you rinse it? If you used two gallons of coco, how much water did you use to 'rinse' it with? I'm not trying to be an ass...but it's important to be specific.
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Nah youre fine mate, im glad there is people with consistent responses instead of waiting 24 hours between each and asking me question is rhe only way you help answer mine haha. So cheers.

And so it was just tap water, although my tap water comes out at 6.2-6.7 last time I checked, but I can recheck that.
And it was enough to make 30L but I didnt need it all so I split it in thirds and soaked '10L approx worth' in 15L of water.

And then yes rinsed with the same type of water, if I had to guess how much I used to rinse was atleast another 10L.
This is the same water I use to water all my plants when mixed with nutes, hardly check ph as ive been using this same nutes for 3 grows and ive got them pretty understood.
 
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Evening Pichael98...sorry for the late reply; life got in the way. Haha. If I had to guess, and at the end of the day, that's exactly what I'm doing largely because I'm not in front of your grow like you...but the guess is educated and to be honest, just as I said, it's happened to me. I too use the dehydrated brick coco. I use regular tap water...mine is probably 7+ pH. Once the bale is expanded, I take what coco I need for the plant/s in question, I line a very large pot with a cotton pillow case, and fill it with said coco. I then take my same tap water and run it through this coco until all the tannins and color come out of the run off...in other words I keep going until the run off is clear. At this point I pretty well know the coco has been flushed of any salts, etc. However at this point if you were to check the coco it would have a pH of 7+ using my tap. Then if I'm doing a transplant for example and the plants I'm about to transplant have been getting a 50% nutrient solution @ a pH of 5.8, I'll mix up the same and run it through said coco before transplanting. This recharges / buffers the coco, sets it up with nutrients and it adjusts the pH of the coco to @ 5.8. If I do it like this, the plants won't miss a beat and there will be no deficiencies. If I just use tap water, and nothing else, the coco inherently takes on the pH of the tap water, but it's also void of any nutrients / buffer, and I'll experience exactly what you seem to be experiencing. Coincidence?...perhaps, but I think if you'll do that you'll see no issues. At this point you can't obviously do this, so if it were me, and at one point it was, I would simply keep feeding as normal and let the plants grow out of it...and they will. If you just want to do something to feel good about your grow...and we all do this at some point or another, I might add a little more Epsom salt (Mg) to boost up your Mg, being those 2 gallons of the 'new' coco most likely don't have any in it, and I would probably chase that with a little calcium as well. Again, it's just a little food for thought; not gospel. Hope you get things sorted out.
 
Pichael98

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CannaCountry said:
Evening Pichael98...sorry for the late reply; life got in the way. Haha. If I had to guess, and at the end of the day, that's exactly what I'm doing largely because I'm not in front of your grow like you...but the guess is educated and to be honest, just as I said, it's happened to me. I too use the dehydrated brick coco. I use regular tap water...mine is probably 7+ pH. Once the bale is expanded, I take what coco I need for the plant/s in question, I line a very large pot with a cotton pillow case, and fill it with said coco. I then take my same tap water and run it through this coco until all the tannins and color come out of the run off...in other words I keep going until the run off is clear. At this point I pretty well know the coco has been flushed of any salts, etc. However at this point if you were to check the coco it would have a pH of 7+ using my tap. Then if I'm doing a transplant for example and the plants I'm about to transplant have been getting a 50% nutrient solution @ a pH of 5.8, I'll mix up the same and run it through said coco before transplanting. This recharges / buffers the coco, sets it up with nutrients and it adjusts the pH of the coco to @ 5.8. If I do it like this, the plants won't miss a beat and there will be no deficiencies. If I just use tap water, and nothing else, the coco inherently takes on the pH of the tap water, but it's also void of any nutrients / buffer, and I'll experience exactly what you seem to be experiencing. Coincidence?...perhaps, but I think if you'll do that you'll see no issues. At this point you can't obviously do this, so if it were me, and at one point it was, I would simply keep feeding as normal and let the plants grow out of it...and they will. If you just want to do something to feel good about your grow...and we all do this at some point or another, I might add a little more Epsom salt (Mg) to boost up your Mg, being those 2 gallons of the 'new' coco most likely don't have any in it, and I would probably chase that with a little calcium as well. Again, it's just a little food for thought; not gospel. Hope you get things sorted out.
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I think you may be right, it started 2-3 weeks ago but the new growth seems to be fine (approx 2-3 waters later). Ill continue to observe it over the week and keep updating.
 
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Pichael98...what are you feeding these exactly, and how often? What is the pH of your feed / water? These are in coco / perlite; correct?
 
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CannaCountry said:
Pichael98...what are you feeding these exactly, and how often? What is the pH of your feed / water? These are in coco / perlite; correct?
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Nutrifields Coco A and B, as its in coco/perlite I judge by weight, as there is a dramatic difference in a wet pot and a dry pot.

pH is at 6.3
 
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