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Hello fellow farmers,

I am in the last week before harvest and also behind in my flushing process and so I was thinking, how I could speed up the process.

Normally, I would adjust the flush water to 5.8, (have a hydro system) but then I thought, why?

If I leave the flush water as is, it will have a PH of about 7.4, thus causing nute-lock.

From my understanding, nute-lock doesn't mean water uptake lock.

So I guess my question is: Does flush water need to be adjusted to the proper PH, and if not and nute-lock occurs, will there be any other ill effects? Or, is it one in the same?

Thanks :blsmoke:
 
that is a really good question.......forcing your plant to go into nute lock during your last week or soo.......hummmm......
 
madness said:
Hello fellow farmers,

I am in the last week before harvest and also behind in my flushing process and so I was thinking, how I could speed up the process.

Normally, I would adjust the flush water to 5.8, (have a hydro system) but then I thought, why?

If I leave the flush water as is, it will have a PH of about 7.4, thus causing nute-lock.

From my understanding, nute-lock doesn't mean water uptake lock.

So I guess my question is: Does flush water need to be adjusted to the proper PH, and if not and nute-lock occurs, will there be any other ill effects? Or, is it one in the same?

Thanks :blsmoke:
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I'm sure someone has thought of it before.

if it worked better then everyone would do it right?
 
its my understanding that u dont want ANY nutes in your plant the last week so why NOT lock em out?
 
That is something I never considered before. Part of me wants to say it should work more or less the same as flushing but part of me thinks it is possible that altering the pH enough to cause nute lockout might be problematic in some way or ways. I cannot imagine that late in 'life' there would be time for any real problem to develop and those should only be ones that would only be a concern if the plant had longer to flower ... so it should not be problematic.

Still I tend to wonder if something else might be thrown off along with the pH, something that would matter. If the pH were in the correct range up until it would intentionally be thrown off the tracks nothing negative that would result from it should happen fast enough to be damaging.

Should is the key word there. Should and could or might are different things.

In hopes of finding something out that is more definite I shot an email to one of my four family members with degrees in botany and asked for a 'simple' ruling. If and when I receive a reply worth adding to the thread I will let you know what, if anything, I learn. If not ... well hopefully someone else will know for sure instead of just thinking and deciding.
 
Brick Top said:
That is something I never considered before. Part of me wants to say it should work more or less the same as flushing but part of me thinks it is possible that altering the pH enough to cause nute lockout might be problematic in some way or ways. I cannot imagine that late in 'life' there would be time for any real problem to develop and those should only be ones that would only be a concern if the plant had longer to flower ... so it should not be problematic.

Still I tend to wonder if something else might be thrown off along with the pH, something that would matter. If the pH were in the correct range up until it would intentionally be thrown off the tracks nothing negative that would result from it should happen fast enough to be damaging.

Should is the key word there. Should and could or might are different things.

In hopes of finding something out that is more definite I shot an email to one of my four family members with degrees in botany and asked for a 'simple' ruling. If and when I receive a reply worth adding to the thread I will let you know what, if anything, I learn. If not ... well hopefully someone else will know for sure instead of just thinking and deciding.
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Great, I am curious to hear what they might think. I will also take conepuller2299's advice and chuck this question in the advance section to see what comes up.
 
i have never grown i hydro so my input here may be worthless, but i do have some experience with ph issues in my soil. i don't think nute lockout is a great substitute for flushing. i base this almost soley on how the leaves act. for example, during flower the leaves turn yellow due to being fed less nitrogen and the plant concentraing on bud production. i believe there is "healthy yellowing" and " not so healthy yellowing". when the plant just lacks nitrogen the leaves turn yellow, but when there are ph issues the leaves not only yellow but may get spotted and crispy, have a funny smell or texture, ect. it is my opinion that an underfed plant will do way better than a screwy ph plant. i realise we are only talking about the last bit of flower time but i would have to imagine the same concept would apply. also keep in mind that locking out one bit of nutes will increase the uptake of others and may have a counterproductive effect. also i don't think it will do much to get rid of that shitty chemical taste in the finished weed. just my two cents.
 
Thank you all for your input on this matter. I thought it was an interesting idea considering the need to eliminate as much nutes from the plant as possible before harvest.
 
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