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Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
is there anybody running for president that would agree with this statement-

"We will not learn to live together in peace by killing each others children"


he got my vote!!

iloveyou
 

medicineman

New Member
is there anybody running for president that would agree with this statement-

"We will not learn to live together in peace by killing each others children"


he got my vote!!

iloveyou
Many might agree but none would adhere to the premis. The "war on terror" is upon us all. Mainly from our own government. If you watched the speech by Ahmadinejad today you know that it is our own government that has brainwashed the heads of universities and the media. I'm not siding with Ahmadinejad, but I don't believe you should invite a sitting head of state to make a speech and then deride and insult him for ten minutes before you introduce him. At least he came to face western idealism, could you imagine Bush speaking at the largest university in Tehran? I say, give him and his peace overtures a chance. Have face to face meetings with him and his emmisaries, try the peace process before starting a pre-emptive war.
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Jimmuy Carter said that line...

Did anybody hug that cat from Iran? Do leaders ever hug each other?

They don't even have to do a real close hug.. they can do thehug the RAPPERS made popular.. where you shake hands and then hug over your hands.. with a strong paton the back...
 

7xstall

Well-Known Member
Ron Paul wrote a book titled, "A Foreign Policy of Freedom: ‘Peace, Commerce, Honest Friendship’"

he argues that foreign policy and domestic policy are pieces of the same puzzle. we can see that fact every day when we turn on the news: another citizen is bullied with high tech pain inducing gadgets while another Iraqi home is destroyed with high tech precision bombs.

the more children of other nations that we sacrifice the more we sacrifice our own children.






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medicineman

New Member
Ron Paul wrote a book titled, "A Foreign Policy of Freedom: ‘Peace, Commerce, Honest Friendship’"

he argues that foreign policy and domestic policy are pieces of the same puzzle. we can see that fact every day when we turn on the news: another citizen is bullied with high tech pain inducing gadgets while another Iraqi home is destroyed with high tech precision bombs.

the more children of other nations that we sacrifice the more we sacrifice our own children.






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You fucking amaze me with your contradictory thoughts. one minute you are praising Bush, the next you are deriding wars. Steady old follow, gather your thoughts and come down on the side of righteousness, not the hypocracy you preach. Who the fuck do you think started the bombing of children? It was the good old USA, and your Idol G.W.Bush has done the most killing since Stalin or Hitler. Pick a side and make a stand. Christ I don't know how to debate a person that switches opinions faster than a white man at a black Muslim meeting.
 

7xstall

Well-Known Member
if you show me one of these "contradictory" thoughts i'd be glad to show you that my logic is quite sturdy.






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medicineman

New Member
if you show me one of these "contradictory" thoughts i'd be glad to show you that my logic is quite sturdy.






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Come on VI clone, I'm not going on that witch hunt. I have seen your views consistently change from loving Bush to now that he is down to 12%, deciding that maybe he was wrong. So if you cant see the inconsistency, then have another toke of your sticky bowl and slip into your la-la land. I'm still waiting for that dorkwad VI to change colors. He'll probably go out with the rats leaving the sinking ship. It's nice to see you making progress from the point where you were for the war to where you are now. But don't try and bullshit a bullshitter. You know I'm right. You've changed your views. I was against Bush from the first minute he took office and even before that. You need more information on that asshole. read Molly Ivens, "Bushwhacked".
 

7xstall

Well-Known Member
Come on VI clone, I'm not going on that witch hunt. I have seen your views consistently change from loving Bush to now that he is down to 12%, deciding that maybe he was wrong. So if you cant see the inconsistency, then have another toke of your sticky bowl and slip into your la-la land. I'm still waiting for that dorkwad VI to change colors. He'll probably go out with the rats leaving the sinking ship. It's nice to see you making progress from the point where you were for the war to where you are now. But don't try and bullshit a bullshitter. You know I'm right. You've changed your views. I was against Bush from the first minute he took office and even before that. You need more information on that asshole. read Molly Ivens, "Bushwhacked".

you're insane. i was never for the war in Iraq, ever. what i did was defend the sitting president of the US from a never ending slew of baseless attacks and whacked out accusations that he lied. i'll still do that if you want to go that route and i still believe Saddam hid or destroyed the unaccounted for nerve gas and biological agents we sold him. did i think Bush deserved the benefit of the doubt? absolutely, he's commander in chief.

Vi and Wavels can set you straight if you don't want to look yourself because both of them know good and well that i have never been for the war. they and many other good people are for it but i'm not.

i have also been a solid critic of this "soft-war" and this "TV" war BS. when you wage war it should be all out, unrestrained killing. that's war. it's about high death toll and total domination. you don't "take control" of a village or city long enough to snap a few pictures - you occupy it and you own everything that happens until habits change then you move on. a successful Iraq war would have required 800,000-1,000,000 troops.

when i saw that Bush wasn't going to get ruthless i abandoned all hope that he might have some insight into what's going which might result in a better outcome.






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medicineman

New Member
you're insane. i was never for the war in Iraq, ever. what i did was defend the sitting president of the US from a never ending slew of baseless attacks and whacked out accusations that he lied. i'll still do that if you want to go that route and i still believe Saddam hid or destroyed the unaccounted for nerve gas and biological agents we sold him. did i think Bush deserved the benefit of the doubt? absolutely, he's commander in chief.

Vi and Wavels can set you straight if you don't want to look yourself because both of them know good and well that i have never been for the war. they and many other good people are for it but i'm not.

i have also been a solid critic of this "soft-war" and this "TV" war BS. when you wage war it should be all out, unrestrained killing. that's war. it's about high death toll and total domination. you don't "take control" of a village or city long enough to snap a few pictures - you occupy it and you own everything that happens until habits change then you move on. a successful Iraq war would have required 800,000-1,000,000 troops.

when i saw that Bush wasn't going to get ruthless i abandoned all hope that he might have some insight into what's going which might result in a better outcome.






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SO, you were for Bush, now you are against Bush. I rest my case. The facts that the WMDs didnt appear or the ties to al-queda were never really there or the fact him and Cheney outed Valerie Plaim over the yellow cake lies really are inconsequential to you. You still believe these things existed but were never found. That's laughable. Wouldn't it be easier to just say you were wrong. How about all those invasions into our constitutional rights? Do you go along with those because you are afraid of a little old man that lives in a cave in Packistan,~LOL~? Come on now, fess up, you really aren't that stupid are you?
 

7xstall

Well-Known Member
not for the war, never for the war, hoped the war would end quickly, lost that hope...

i'm not against Bush.






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medicineman

New Member
not for the war, never for the war, hoped the war would end quickly, lost that hope...

i'm not against Bush.






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Well you sure sounded like it, and you sure as hell ought to be. That criminal has done more to fuck this country than anyone before him in my 66 year memory. I may not be the brightest bulb in the box, but I can see, and what I see, is serious treachery by this administration to turn this into a 3rd world country, with the haves and the have nots at each others throats. From what I can see, they are pretty successful.
 

7xstall

Well-Known Member
Well you sure sounded like it, and you sure as hell ought to be. That criminal has done more to fuck this country than anyone before him in my 66 year memory. I may not be the brightest bulb in the box, but I can see, and what I see, is serious treachery by this administration to turn this into a 3rd world country, with the haves and the have nots at each others throats. From what I can see, they are pretty successful.
i don't think it's bush. our system is overrun with behind the scenes elitist cockroaches on both sides. they hide in the complicated legislation of "campaign finance reform", lobby institutions and so many other layers of federal inefficiency while manipulating everything.






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medicineman

New Member
i don't think it's bush. our system is overrun with behind the scenes elitist cockroaches on both sides. they hide in the complicated legislation of "campaign finance reform", lobby institutions and so many other layers of federal inefficiency while manipulating everything.






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Yeah, I know Bush isn't smart enough to think up all this crap, but he's the front man, so he gets the blame, as in the buck stops here. Read Molly Ivens, "Bushwhacked" and learn how he got to be governor of Texas and what dirty politics that asshole Rove used to ruin the opposition. Rove and his cohorts are the brains, Bush is the puppet, pretty much richard Perle and the gang thought up this insanity, The thinktank for the new millinium, etc. Just the fact that Bush lets this insanity progress is enough to make him culpable, I say hang him and all the puppetmasters.
 

7xstall

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I know Bush isn't smart enough to think up all this crap, but he's the front man, so he gets the blame, as in the buck stops here. Read Molly Ivens, "Bushwhacked" and learn how he got to be governor of Texas and what dirty politics that asshole Rove used to ruin the opposition. Rove and his cohorts are the brains, Bush is the puppet, pretty much richard Perle and the gang thought up this insanity, The thinktank for the new millinium, etc. Just the fact that Bush lets this insanity progress is enough to make him culpable, I say hang him and all the puppetmasters.
like you, i've driven heavy things before so i'll respond this way... you're in a cement truck. what do you do if your tire tread is just barely at DOT spec, your load might be a tad over limit, the road just got a light drizzle of rain after a long drought and some fool in a volvo runs the stop sign at an intersection you're going through?

welcome to Bush's world less than 1 year into his first term.






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medicineman

New Member
like you, i've driven heavy things before so i'll respond this way... you're in a cement truck. what do you do if your tire tread is just barely at DOT spec, your load might be a tad over limit, the road just got a light drizzle of rain after a long drought and some fool in a volvo runs the stop sign at an intersection you're going through?

welcome to Bush's world less than 1 year into his first term.






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Well, in the first place, I'd never take a load out on those tires, It is expressly inherent on the driver to check everything on that truck before he leaves the yard and if anything is not correct, then take it to the shop for repair. Our 10 yard loads were all over the limit, even with the trailers, in Vegas the odds of rain are so slight that that occurence might happen once or twice a year. And your odds of the fool being in a Volvo are even more staggering, not to say there weren't a passel of fools out there. Otherwise, at 50 MPH, that sucker would be in the next world before I got the behemoth stopped. I always was more afraid of teenage girls than any other drivers, brainless twits talking on their everpresent cellphones not having a clue what 85,000 Lbs of concrete truck could do to their Honda, yeah, they scared me the worst.
 
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