Please report your smell and taste

Daemon

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Hi farmers from the world i make this thread because i find there is a big lack of info about smell and taste from TGA strains, there is a lot of very nice pics but not enough details on invisible attributes. And also i make this thread because recently i've experienced very unusual smell and taste from my last JILLYBEAN and PLUSHBERRY. My first Jillybean females had a very distinct orange smell with a touch of powerful skunky smell or a very sweet smell very sugary reminding candies and the taste when smoked were very close to those smells. But my last two Jillybean females were smelling very strong pine, a very unpleasant smell and the taste was the same, i was very upset to find such smells because i can't stand piney smelling weed. I don't understand where this smell is coming from, i also had a plushberry smelling piney but the taste was not disgusting as Jillybeans were. If you refer to strains description no one is supposed to smell piney so where this is coming from? Did you experiment some piney smell with TGA strains?
I have some Space-Jill in flower now they are just starting to make some frost and the first whiff is also very piney absolutely not sweet smelling or fruity smelling, what kind of smell did you get with your Space-jill? I really hope my 4 females won't smell piney because i really don't like that and i always choose some fruity strain because that's what i dig but how to make a choice if you can't trust strains characteristics?
Input about growers would be very welcome to be able to make good choice when buying seeds. I have also grown Ace of Spades from TGA and i got a wonderful female from my 5 seeds pack, she's smelling lemon and blackcurrant with a perfect taste as my first jillybean females that's why i'm so confused to find those bad smelling females. So please report your own experience. I'm not from US and english is not my mother-tongue so a funky smell doesn't speak to me, what is it supposed to mean? The more precise you can be, the better it is.
 

ThatGuy113

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adj. funk·i·er, funk·i·est


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a. Having a moldy or musty smell: funky cheese; funky cellars.
b. Having a strong, offensive, unwashed odor.



Funky smells kinda make you tighten up your nostrils cause something was pungent... like smelling cat piss

Like the face you make when you get a whiff of something and it makes you go whats that? Thats just how I see funky being defined.

I don't know what to tell you about tastes but most of the strain guides on TGA's website and seed distributors (Attitude, Hemp Depot) have taste descriptions listed.
 

Daemon

Member
ok so when a grower report a funky smell it's like saying it stinks, an unpleasant smell and very far from fruity smell. Thanks for that info.
 

ThatGuy113

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its not totally unpleasant.


Its like how some people love the smell of gas and others gag from it. Its just one of those things.

It can be a sweet or sour smell but it has a pungency to it. You can definitely get the fruit smells mixed in with the funky smells.

I personally love those kinds of funky aromas.
 

Daemon

Member
I ask for personal experience because descriptions don't fit reality so i'd like to get info from different growers to know how their females really smell. If you refer to jillybean description you certainly don't expect to have a piney smelling female, the same for plushberry. It's a very bad surprise to buy a strain supposed to smell candy like and getting a female stinking to the point you can't smoke it. That's why i'd like to have more accurate info about TGA strains and reports from other growers is the best way to collect those data i think.
That's for sure a matter of personal taste, me i don't like funky smelling weed so i don't want to grow some. So i prefer to have good info to make the good choice and don't loose my time and money to grow a weed i won't like.
 

geekmike

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Taste has a LOT to do w/ how you are growing it. More than even standard flavor profiles.

But.... like ThatGuy said, some strains just give off a funk, the Orange Velvet has Orange Skunk in it.... so I'd guess from there. The Plush Berry's mom is a Kush... so, that explains that one. Genetics are chosen at random, so, on occasions you get some random shit. The phenotype descriptions are usually fro the DOMINANT phenos or the DESIRED phenos. Gives the grower an idea of what to look for in keepers.
 

sine143

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if we all never had to worry about growing weed we dont like, there'd be a million cuts of the golden ticket in everyones garden. if you need to KNOW, what your getting for you money, you probably need to buy clones, and replicate the growth conditions of the original mother plant with desirable taste and smell as well as possible.

My experience with TGA thus far:

2/3 aos females

1 purple pheno: extremely stretchy structure, berry smell with a bit of a bite that I attribute to a hint of sandlewood smell. my nose is not very trained, but it is a GREAT smell, tastes faintly of berries.

1 green pheno: MUCH less fruit smell. almost no berry, but a hint of lemon/lime. this is immediatly followed by a FUNK smell. similar to the sandlewood smell from the above pheno, however this one smells more earthy, almost like a composted, softer, more expansive smell than the purple pheno. taste is complicated, but nice in my opinion.
 

Daemon

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My 6 Jillybean females have been grown in the same condition with the same soil and nutes, the one i enjoyed as the one i didn't so the difference is in genetic but what a huge difference between those girls, that's crazy. I need more words to describe the smell i didn't like. If strains description just cover the dominant or better pheno it's not accurate enough. I grow since 15 years now outdoor and indoor and i rarely had results so far from the strain description than with TGA gear, for example on 6 different Jillybean females only 2 were close to the description and only for taste because for size i still have to see a short Jiily, they all had a massive stretch.
I'm living in a country where it's still illegal to grow for your own and the black market is an abomination so when i choose a strain i need it to fit my tastes. I don't understand how i can get in the same pack a female i really enjoy and one i can't smoke because it stinks too much, i had never experienced that yet and i'm not a newby. I've had some failure but it was all the females who didn't fit my taste not half of them when the other half is great. I think you can understand how desapointing it is to grow some beans from wich you expect something great and getting a bud you don't even want to smoke. My first experiences with TGA were great but recently i had some females i don't like at all so my problem is how to select a strain to buy if i can't trust the description, the only way who comes to mind is to ask to growers what kind of smell and tastes they experienced, good and bad ones as well.
I really hope the Space-Jill i have now in flower will have a smell i like. If it's not the case i'll try other breeders because it's too much frustration to not get what you're expecting so much. Personaly i found some wonderful keepers in DNA strains like Cannadential and Recon, i've had a great S.A.G.E keeper as well, i kept those for years but i was so much excited about TGA gear that i get rid of them.
 

sine143

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Recon is a strain i'm familiar with. what did you like about the smell and taste of that bud?

TGA is straight F1 hybrids, with the exception of space jill (f2) space bomb (f2), Pandoras box (space bomb male bx), jacks cleaner 2 (jacks cleaner back cross), deep purple (purple urkle backcross), and apollo 13 back cross. F1 hybrids are known for variation, and enormous vigor. they are as far from the word stable. HOWEVER, you said you found 2 jillys you liked. why didnt you keep them? this is the best part of f1s. pop 10 seeds, get 5 females, throw out 3 and keep 2 for life! Its really hard to identify what went wrong with your jillys without getting a closer description of the smell you didnt like. I dont know why you'd be smelling pine in a space queen cross, possibly from romulan influence i supposse. I know that jack the ripper is slated as "piney/cleaner" being one half jacks cleaner, one half space queen, so I would expect most JTR crosses to have more pine smell (ace of spades, agent orange, ripped bubba etc).

also, whats wrong with piney weed in the first place? I've seen a whole slew of posts looking for that exact smell taste profile. not knocking your personal preference, just trying to understand it.

coming from an illegal state, I'm happy to have access to anything I can. if it wasnt for breeders we'd all be growing bagseed, which would mean going to your sketchy local acquaintence of choice to acquire blackmarket bud and hope theres seeds in it. growing is no garuntee, and I still stand by the fact that as soon as you find a strain you like, or a particular plant, HOLD ON TO IT by taking clone after clone.
 

Ninjabowler

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Im sorry but the title of this thread is hilarious, im still a little tipsy from last night so it totally cracked me up. Its a good thread though :):):)
 

Rising Moon

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Its amazing how much different the cured buds can be, from cuttings of the same plant, grown in different environments.

Ive grown clones in different rooms and outdoors, and the finished products look like different herb altogether.
 

geekmike

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My 6 Jillybean females have been grown in the same condition with the same soil and nutes, the one i enjoyed as the one i didn't so the difference is in genetic but what a huge difference between those girls, that's crazy. I need more words to describe the smell i didn't like. If strains description just cover the dominant or better pheno it's not accurate enough. I grow since 15 years now outdoor and indoor and i rarely had results so far from the strain description than with TGA gear, for example on 6 different Jillybean females only 2 were close to the description and only for taste because for size i still have to see a short Jiily, they all had a massive stretch.
I'm living in a country where it's still illegal to grow for your own and the black market is an abomination so when i choose a strain i need it to fit my tastes. I don't understand how i can get in the same pack a female i really enjoy and one i can't smoke because it stinks too much, i had never experienced that yet and i'm not a newby. I've had some failure but it was all the females who didn't fit my taste not half of them when the other half is great. I think you can understand how desapointing it is to grow some beans from wich you expect something great and getting a bud you don't even want to smoke. My first experiences with TGA were great but recently i had some females i don't like at all so my problem is how to select a strain to buy if i can't trust the description, the only way who comes to mind is to ask to growers what kind of smell and tastes they experienced, good and bad ones as well.
I really hope the Space-Jill i have now in flower will have a smell i like. If it's not the case i'll try other breeders because it's too much frustration to not get what you're expecting so much. Personaly i found some wonderful keepers in DNA strains like Cannadential and Recon, i've had a great S.A.G.E keeper as well, i kept those for years but i was so much excited about TGA gear that i get rid of them.
someone needs to research what the genetic variability of an F1 hybrid
 

Daemon

Member
someone needs to research what the genetic variability of an F1 hybrid
Do we have to go blind on a f1 hybrid? Many seeds company are selling F1 hybrid where you know what variations you can expect and results are more or less predictable. I don't want to choose my beans like flipping a coin. Does anybody have some input to share?
I know the thread title is strange and funny but as i said english is not my mother-tongue so i do my best.
The kind of smell i like are the really fruity and sweet taste without funky smell mixed with it or piney smell. It'd be great if the web could make an odorama, so you could smell the AOS i got to see what kind of bud i like. But basically everything going from lemony to pineapple and berries or red fruit;
I would to see some real info coming if possible.
 

geekmike

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Here's the thing... I smoked as many Jillybean samples as I could in LA during cup. Almost all of them were similar in structure and had a skunky/funk orange aroma w/ an orange creamcycle flavor & triangular buds.

I think I sampled 8-10 different Jillybean buds and almost all of them were the same. My cut is a bit more sour than the ones I smoked, also has a bit more sedative effect.



The pine thing is weird.... tbh, I have popped over 70 TGA beans and have only got a piney smell from the Bubba Kush cross I grew.
 

sine143

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Its not flipping A coin. its flipping 10 coins. and taking the result you like best and holding it forever via clone.

cannabis produces so many smells, more than any other plant in the world pretty much, and both environment and genetics take an equal role in the end expression. When your growing an f1, do research on the parents. obviously with jilly bean you've got Orange velvet, which is an orange skunk cross. even if we look at oldschool "stable" strains like skunk 1, you still get CRAZY variation, from orange/berry smell to "cheese" (uk cheese is a skunk cutting). Its going to happen.

not trying to be mean, but i still cant fathom not likeing the "funk" smell of good, well grown, organic bud. I open the jar on the last of my green aos, and the smell just washes over the whole room. FUNK.
 

dabumps

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My jillybean that I'm growing right now smells like plant with a faint tinge of Cotton candy
 

wolfpack4ever

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Are you growing in super soil, daemon? If not, what are you growing your plants in?
If you said before, im sorry but I read over the thread and didnt see it.
Medium and environment play a big factor as you know....

Wolf
 
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