Please!! Need help before my plant gets sicker

I have an Alaskan Ice about 3 weeks into flower in soil. About a week ago she started getting this brownish color in the veins. I thought it maybe was nute burn and i cut back from 1/2 to 1/4. The problem is still there and moving up the plant. I thought maybe ph lockout so I flushed really good and the problem got worse. Spreading faster. I then thought it overwatering. Let her dry out real good but continues to spread. She is the only one of 6 showing this problem.

i looked at several troubleshooting guides with pictures but couldnt find one that seemed to match mine.

Please any suggestions at all will be greatly appreciated!!

pluto420 said:

I have an Alaskan Ice about 3 weeks into flower. About a week ago she started getting this brownish color in the veins. I thought it maybe was nute burn and i cut back from 1/2 to 1/4. The problem is still there and moving up the plant. I thought maybe ph lockout so I flushed really good and the problem got worse. Spreading faster. I then thought it overwatering. Let her dry out real good but continues to spread. She is the only one of 6 showing this problem.

i looked at several troubleshooting guides with pictures but couldnt find one that seemed to match mine.

Please any suggestions at all will be greatly appreciated!!

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wish i could help.still learning myself but that looks bad

sorry to be so impatient but I am desperate for some advice. Thanks!

Hey brother - No worries, we will get your bitches back up to full health.

Couple of questions while I look up some things:

1) What type of soil did you mix up?
2) What type of nutes are you using / what PPMs you running (if you don't know PPMs - what measurements)?
3) What PH are you tuning your H20 @ before you water?
4) What is the PH of the soil run off?
5) What type of light are you using?
6) Seen any bugs on your plants at all?

This is happening early which means there is still time to treat - no worries bro.

damn dota, a true green friend, helping those in need! +rep for being awesome! good luck pluto!

Dota said:

Hey brother - No worries, we will get your bitches back up to full health.

Couple of questions while I look up some things:

1) What type of soil did you mix up?
2) What type of nutes are you using / what PPMs you running (if you don't know PPMs - what measurements)?
3) What PH are you tuning your H20 @ before you water?
4) What is the PH of the soil run off?
5) What type of light are you using?
6) Seen any bugs on your plants at all?

This is happening early which means there is still time to treat - no worries bro.

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Thanks for reply and easing my anxiety.

1) Its fox farm ocean forest with a little lite warrior mixed in. about 85 of to 15 lw.
2) I am using Botanicare pro bloom. i have been doing 1 tsp per gallon of water. Plus 1-2 drops of nitrozime.
3) I have been mixing the water and nutes and getting a ph of 6.2 before watering.
4) I have never done this before. How do you do this?
5) 1000 w hortilux hps
6) No bugs. I had mites once before but these look to be bug free.

Thanks!

Alright -

I've been going through some of my old notes, and I have a few different theories / suggestions.

First Theory: Magnesium deficiency;
Magnesium deficiency will exhibit a yellowing (which may turn brown) and interveinal chlorosis beginning in the older leaves. The older leaves will be the first to develop interveinal chlorosis. Starting at leaf margin or tip and progressing inward between the veins.

Second Theory: Iron deficiency;
Pronounced interveinal chlorosis similar to that caused by magnesium deficiency but on the younger leaves.
Leaves exhibit chlorosis (yellowing) of the leaves mainly between the veins, starting with the lower and middle leaves.
Caused by factors that interfere with iron absorption of roots: over irrigation, excessive soluble salts, inadequate drainage, pests, high substrate pH, or nematodes. This is easily corrected by adding an iron supplement with the next watering.


My advice / thought -
I think that by just using your bloom solution - your plants are missing out on valuable nutrients needed in order to compliment your bloom.
I like the Botanicare line almost as much as Advanced nutrients - and so let's keep rocking with them.


I belong to another board - and one of the moderator's - hererisssh - has a nute schedule I really liked:



Basic Flowering Formula (1 Gallon):
Botanicare Cal-Mag + 5 ml
Cannazym 9 ml (Nitrozime is a fine alternative)
Botanicare Liquid Karma 12 ml
Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Bloom 10-15 ml (depending on sensitivity)
PH Adjust To 6.5



The Cal/Mg & Liquid Karma are going to give you the added nutes I think you are missing.
I think this is going to fix you up nicely - and get your bitches back on the right track.
I am back in the states now, and check the board often - so post up some pics and we will monitor them closely.


Let me know if $ is an issue, and I will come up with a cheaper alternative to the products.


- CHeers brother

My Bad - deficiency information came from: http://www.marijuana-seeds.net/Thanks-ThankYou.htm

Thanks Dota. I will give that a shot. I am also thinking that the plant is rootbound. Its in a 3 gallon container. Is is too hard on a plant to be transplanted to a bigger pot at this stage? Thanks again for the advice. I have been wanting to try liquid karma and just never have. Oh last thing. Would you cut the leaves that are like the ones in my pics or leave them?

Thanks and +rep!

pluto420 said:

Thanks Dota. I will give that a shot. I am also thinking that the plant is rootbound. Its in a 3 gallon container. Is is too hard on a plant to be transplanted to a bigger pot at this stage? Thanks again for the advice. I have been wanting to try liquid karma and just never have. Oh last thing. Would you cut the leaves that are like the ones in my pics or leave them?

Thanks and +rep!

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- 3 gallons is plenty to sustain the plant through it's entire life cycle - unless you plan on growing TREES.
- I don't like to transplant after I turn the lights back to 12/12.
- No, leave those puppies on. I think you will see a major difference in overall leaf health once you get those lacking nutes up in there, but the Cal / MG is where you are going to see the big help. GO pick those up tomorrow if you can.

Great work brotha - going to make this a bumper crop. From the specs you laid out, looks like you are doing a great many things right. Post some full plant shots if you can.

Great job at taking care of problems early!

- Cheers.
Big D

The PH run off test BTW -

PH water to 6.5 (5.5 hydro) like you normally would before a watering, and catch the runnoff from your pots into a sterile cup - then do a ph test on the soil water so you can see the true PH inside your system. If it comes out too high (7+) (+6.5 in hydro) - you have a nutrient salt build up, which requires a full flush. I like to add nutes in soil every other watering, and in hydro - I like to flush my system for 1/2 watering cycle about every 2 weeks. Keeps the roots happy, clean, and growing strong.

Dota, I got the additional nutes and just fed her. I will let you know how it goes. I will post updated pics in a few days. Thanks again for the help.

Here is an update. I flushed. Since then I have been feeding with the new nutes added. At first I thought things were getting better but it seems to continue spreading. Hopefully these news pics will help. Thanks for any help provided!!