Plasma vs. LED

Hello,

Just curious at to whether any of you have experimented with plasma lighting? It's a little more expensive than the larger LED systems, however the results gathered from them apear to be staggering. Meanwhile, LED system results swing around from very good to, well, bad.

OK so LED saves electricity in comparison to mega consumers HID, however there is little fact on the internet regarding electrical consumption by plasma lighting. Could anybody help out with a few figures?

Further, I would like some concrete proof that that LED lighting is effective, as studies in biology, phytochromes in particular, has taught me that plants require more than simply a few specific wavelengths of light, indeed photosynthesis is active at all levels to some degree. I have a difficult time believing that LED is as effective as full spectrum light. Am I wrong?
The exception here is germination, which thrives on 650 - 680nm. And let me tell you, infra red light definitively stunts germination.

Finally, heat stress is a major consideration. How much heat does plasma lighting produce in comparison to, say, CFL?

Thank you for reading this. I hope someone might help me with this topic.

Love and Learn.

No one replied? Alright, well I will, Plasma or LED, plants care nothing for the source of photons, only the photons, the PUR, and PAR, Photo Useful Radiation, and Photo Active Radiation, PUR is a large mystery in science, so people use PAR as their qualitative measurement of usability, the PAR of LED and Plasma whether, solid state or magnetic induction all possess higher PAR efficiency than HID which apparently use more mercury in all flavors implying bulb breakage a major toxic danger to human operators. LED's at their most efficient, configuration available on the market is in my research Apache Tech's LED's one of which I have purchased and used personally, they have the highest confirmed PAR reading at a standard distance independently verified by with video evidence on Youtube. Not to say there is not a model with higher efficiency I have not seen, nor that you could not accomplish the same level of PAR with other less efficient less expensive, higher wattage products.

I have not seen PAR readings on the Plasma/Induction Plasma lamps, I do know from their efficiency that they output like other fluorescents, the vast majority of their light in the PAR spectrums, without readings on these products from a standard height there is no effective way to compare the PAR/watt of each Vs. their running costs, and initial investment.

I do know of the LIFI of Luxim the LEP modules used in units like the Chameleon, and Solar Genesis have an 140 lumen/watt efficiency, which makes them more efficient than even the best LED for the purpose of human lighting, though their PAR spectrum is strongest where plants ability to absorb is the lowest (green). However with their vast output of photons they may be able to accomplish wonderful things through brute photon force, rather than a more tailored spectrum.

Because of the odd rules of physics and lighting in general, a blue ray of light has 4 photons compared to a red ray of light having 1, therefore blue rays of light are more photon based energy for plants.

On that same topic, plants have been revealed to absorb green light, which it uses to detect shading and also uses for energy in small amounts. This recent discovery in science, will reveal the importance of green in plant growth, and as plasma lighting includes abundant green, if this green is a key factor, then these plasma technologies have an edge over existing LED configurations that omit this spectrum, time will tell if green is a key to some health factors in plants.

And I apologize for the communities at large, some people are interested in next technology lighting technology, and have no bias towards anything they may already possess, if plasma is better than the LED I have currently then plasma I will upgrade to, if something like OLED eclipses that, then that will be upgraded to.

If you have a further interest in this topic, please check out the LED 2011, LED 2012 threads as there is a wealth of information in there about these topics.

U know... I don't really know what the amp usage on the plasma, I'm assuming it's under 3 maybe 1.5? (will triple check) Reason being is because I have one breaker that is a 15 amp and I have one thousand watt plus one inline And the plasma on it, and everything runs fine(never added more), any higher amp usage on that breaker it would be showing problems.
Whazzup said that plasma is not great in terms of energy saving(not his exact words, but something in those lines) but it's not about that, it's about the quality. Which I agree.

Truth be told I'm not sure what the awnser are for your questions, but I can say that most awnsers you would recieve, or better yet, your questions you asked can be some what controversial. And that's because we r still figuring out the basics for all these technologies, especially for cannabis growing.

Would love to hear everyone's thoughts and inputs on all this.

I was told not to use more than 1400 watts per breaker to play it safe, it sounds like you would be pretty close with the 1000, your plasma and the inline.

Should of mention I run 240v

Amps x Volts will tell you what the max wattage for a circuit is.

Of course, we can't run the max without tripping the breaker....

Annnnd the magic number is 20, overhead that is. (80% active)

So, (at 120V)
-15 amp- 1800w max- 1440 actual
-20 amp- 2400w max- 1920 actual
-30 amp- 3600w max- 2880 actual

Set up a 30 for your mainline and a 15 for your accessories and you should be set, unless you're in some serious commercialism.

Then you can break down what each light, pump, and fan consume with these kind of formula's- kicks ass getting it down to a 'T' and knowing if it is really paying itself off.

Or you could buy a $19.75 Kill-a-Watt meter and skip the math

@240V

-15amp- 3600w max- 2880 actual
-20amp- 3840w max- 3072 actual
-30amp- 7200w max- 5760 actual

^^^^ I just now realized how silly 120V is....fuck me.

Haha, ya lucky for me I have a 240v connection already set up for I believe my dryer, it's strange tho because my washer and dryer are connected to another 20 amp breaker which is a 120v. So maybe this 15 amp breaker was a mistake? Lol I better look into it.. Let's get back on track with the dudes questions.....

This was his/her one and only post....i hope he/she didnt have an accident involving breakers....your advice may have come too late...?!