Plant identification

roseypeach

roseypeach

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Hey guys, I've got this bush that I cannot figure out what it is so I'm hoping someone here may have a clue. You can't see them but this sucker is covered up with briars, up and down each stem. If I don't prune it, the stalks get so long they fall over. I found a similar looking bush online called Purple Pixie. I'd appreciate it if there's anyone that can verify this?

Here it tis..


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DG1959 said:
Does it have thorns? if so we have one also.... I am sure I am wrong but "bayberry" seems like what the wife called it.
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Yes it sure does, tons of them little bastards too. Stuck myself several times before I finally put gloves on to deal with pruning it. I'd let it go full steam ahead but it's next to my Mandevilla and they keep getting tangled up together. I don't think it's a bayberry, I googled it just now and all the pics I see are basically just green and the leaves are longer and slender.
 
This is what I found, it seems to fit the bill though I don't remember ever seeing it bloom but Cat said it did back in April.

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this is what the blooms are supposed to look like. They also specify that it only blooms in spring.

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Does your bloom like this?
 
BarnBuster said:
(Japanese?) crimson barberry? the barberry get red seed like things on them in the fall (in the Midwest at least) but the flowers don't look like the above and aren't very noticeable

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Gosh that looks a lot like it but those flowers..I don't remember seeing it bloom but Cat said he did, and the flowers looked similar to the ones in the pic I posted. I'm so confused! I wish my mom was still alive, she was a walking, talking plant encylopedia. I sure do miss her...

maybe we'll figure it out before too long. I'm trying to determine what it is because I'm opening a small plant nursery and have been reading that certain shrubs like japanese maples and purple sandberry's (which is what I thought it was to start with) are good for taking cuttings and selling.
 
roseypeach said:
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Gosh that looks a lot like it but those flowers..I don't remember seeing it bloom but Cat said he did, and the flowers looked similar to the ones in the pic I posted. I'm so confused! I wish my mom was still alive, she was a walking, talking plant encylopedia. I sure do miss her...

maybe we'll figure it out before too long. I'm trying to determine what it is because I'm opening a small plant nursery and have been reading that certain shrubs like japanese maples and purple sandberry's (which is what I thought it was to start with) are good for taking cuttings and selling.
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I feel you on the mom thing ...my mom passed when I was young and she loved to garden ...it was her birthday recently it's always tough losing someone like that but especially hard when your dealing with one of there favorite subjects or hobbies when they were still around ..
 
roseypeach said:
I'm opening a small plant nursery and have been reading that certain shrubs like japanese maples and purple sandberry's (which is what I thought it was to start with) are good for taking cuttings and selling.
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Throw smoke tree/bush (cotinus coggygria) into the mix, for ease of propagation and attractive purple foliage plants.
 
depends on what they patented. youd have to pull up the specific patent for their plant. it may only be that you cannot take cuttings and sell them as your own *in reality they wont care unless theyre threatened) or it may be that theyve patented the parent stocks so every pheno that comes out is under patent. but these things goes bad in 10 years i think. thats really how commercial nurseries lose the battle after a while. mom and pops nurseries need to have these plants and they may be watching for patents to expire.

you can also breed the parent stocks and breed the offspring and back cross to get something that looks like the desired plant pheno. but by then you've created a new pheno and the only reason to copy the other's name is for marketing. the name part would be illegal but you can make a reference to the original name if you like. patents are stupid.
 
iHearAll said:
these things goes bad in 10 years i think. thats really how commercial nurseries lose the battle after a while. mom and pops nurseries need to have these plants and they may be watching for patents to expire.
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patents on property are important to maintain and observe imo.
 
Indacouch said:
I feel you on the mom thing ...my mom passed when I was young and she loved to garden ...it was her birthday recently it's always tough losing someone like that but especially hard when your dealing with one of there favorite subjects or hobbies when they were still around ..
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Thanks, yeah mama was amazing with gardening, that woman could grow anything and did! Banana trees, orchids, trained bonsais, you name it she could grow it. From the time I was a tiny little thing she'd walk me around the yard and tell me all the different plant names and what family they were from. I wish I could remember half of what she taught me.
abe supercro said:
Throw smoke tree/bush (cotinus coggygria) into the mix, for ease of propagation and attractive purple foliage plants.
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I'll check those out, thanks for the tip!
iHearAll said:
i used to work with a nursery. we operated solely on online sales. the owners were old plant enthusiasts and almost everything is propagated from cutting to date. almost.. http://www.woodlanders.net/index.cfm/fuseaction/home.home/index.htm
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I just took several mandevilla, rose, hydrangea and japanese maple cuttings yesterday, hoping to get some good roots. The mandevilla's sell for $30 each no matter where you go, the hydrangeas will be great $5.97 plants if I have success with them. From what I've found out you don't need permission for that, as long as you don't promote them as branded types.

I threw a couple of pieces of this plant we're talking about in some water to see if I can get some roots that way. Here are some shots of the cuttings from the one in question, you can see the colors a lot better, especially in the one with the sun shining on it.

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