plant genetics

this is just a topic for marijuana breeders and plant genetics.
i was wondering about making a strain on my own that has:

cold resistance
mold resistance
auto flower
fast growing/budding

basically i want to make a good outdoor strain that can handle cold weather, a short growing season and lots of rain.

i already got 3 strains going atm with seeds on them. 2 unknown strains, 1 is auto flower and the other is a good crystal plant with an odor problem but prone to mold, both those plants were pollinated by a white widow and will serve as a good base for my genetic experiment.

my plan is to plant those seeds, 30 each so ill have 60 plants, grow them till the ones with the auto flower gene to bud, then select the fastest growing and crystally plant from those and pollinate them for my next batch of seeds, ill just grow the other plants that i didnt select elsewhere or give them away.

then on my next batch and idk if this would work but subject the plants to cold weather or leave the window open in the winter or anything to lower the temp and select the survivors.

the problem i have is how to i select my males? they dont produce crystals so do i select the ones with the most pollen sacks and fastest growing?

also i was wondering can purple strains handle cold weather?

i just need some advice on how to select my plants every generation, like i said how would i select which ones for pollination and would i need to do some environmental stress on them such as cold weather and moisture to see how they resist them?

DoctorSmoke said:

i just need some advice on how to select my plants every generation, like i said how would i select which ones for pollination and would i need to do some environmental stress on them such as cold weather and moisture to see how they resist them?

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Yes the only way to know if a plant can resist mold is to watch it around a room full of molded plants. Most of your indicas will be infected first due to dense canopy locking in moisture below. If your one strain isnt molding its a good sign that mold hasnt got there or that the plant is fairly resistant. If the buds grow fast, this is a good breeder for your fast budding...typically indicas grow fastest. Not sure about cold resistance but again, if you have a batch in the backyard and it gets cold enough to kill a plant...breed the ones that dont die. Not too familiar with autoflowers....

Males carry traits such as vigor, growth speed, color, smell. Leaf structure, plant growth structure. Not sure if color matters on how well a plant handles the cold. Theres alot more to genetics then simple statements like that.

Start with two known and proven strains for the characteristics you are looking for. It will take decades if you are starting with the wrong breeding stock. Also, the frostiest looking strain isnt always the best. Every harvest i can smoke a strain that doesnt look frosty at all and itll knock me on my ass compared to her frosty sister.

Aeviaanah is given you some good advice and I'll throw my two cents in addition. Selecting your 2nd and 3rd generation plants to me is where you really are at your crossroads in where you end up. I am going to enclose some links I have found helpful and of course there are many thousands of articles and studies on breeding and the all important feature breeding for a trait (meaning the plants may look completely different for everything except one trait such as the flower). This is my second go around taking seeds grown totally different climate and breeding and adapting them to my climate. Currently using sannie's stock and growing them at 6500 above sea level, a true challenge so far.
As mentioned above the strain with the most characteristics are where to start for the easiest route. Growing for cold, mold and such will get better with each generation (more or less) grown in a specific climate, you are just turning on old genes which there and just not active. I believe that today with most breeding done in such controlled surroundings today that many strains just are going to take time to endure the riggers of outdoor growing.
Selecting the right plant for the second and third generation is going to be time consuming because you are not going to know which plant is what until it is finished. I believe in lots of pictures throughout the grow to compare the phenos and how they compare to the current grow. Picking a plant here is when really reinforce what you are looking for if you pick correctly and can lead you down the wrong path chosen incorrectly. You can still get to the same place in the end but it will be more crosses and back crosses to get there. I keep clones going through cure to know what is what, is it as strong as the last. Then you know where you stand flowerwise. What if you have a pheno that looks the same but doesn't get you high like the last?
Sorry for the ramble, just want you to get what you are looking for. I might do some extra work and take more time but it will be on going project as long as I grow. I personally just breed for a certain flower within a strain and don't really care what the plant looks like. To me this is the easiest and fastest way to get what I want and let nature work on the mold and bugs. Of course I help this every chance I get but on growing small scale sometimes here I am not quite as picky. It is lots of fun, nerve wracking, very rewarding and keeps me entertained daily.
Good Luck with your adventure, if I can be of other help just PM
http://www.mellowgold.com/grow/mjbotany-removed/
https://www.rollitup.org/breeders-paradise/395655-creating-true-breeding-strains-vic.html
https://www.rollitup.org/breeders-paradise/395659-mr-soul-brothers-grimm-cubing.html

This is off topic, but breeder related. I put it here because it seemed like a good place and I in no way mean to hijack this thread.

Would it not be nice if s breeder had the lab and equipment to extract certain genes from a non-cannabis plant and insert it into cannabis? Like the growing strength from the dandelion weed? Damn weed just needs to touch the ground and it will grow, multiply, and is a bitch to kill off.
Or splice the roundup resistant gene from a Monsanto plant into a cannabis plant making the cannabis resistant to roundup weed killer?
Then you would have a strain than literary grows like a noxious weed and is resistant to the number one weed killer out there.
IMHO, that would be sweet for outdoor growers and make the plants damn near impossible to kill with weed killer.
I am sure it can be done, but can't be don't by cross breeding but by scientific gene splicing. That takes lots of money, lab equipment, and those who know how to do it.
Just something that popped into my head while I get fogged over for the 911 10th year remembrance. It can be called 911 strain. Never forget, and it will never die without a fight.

thanks for the input, i just started growing for seeds a little while back and it was my auto strain that was given to me. i bought black jack, ak 48 and white widow to grow outside and the slugs n snails ate them as they sprouted or didnt grow, even the pre grown plants that was 6 inches tall. all that was a set back this summer and ofcourse no smoke for this winter but some widows survived and my 4 autos are fine, natural selection at work.

i got my friend to grow for me this winter so i can stabilize and cross a few strains for next summer, just needed to know a little more before we proceed with the op, which strains to grow and new ones to add,

east coast canada is pretty harsh for rain in the summer as we get the tailend of every weather front and hurricane to hit the states below us, and we only get about 3 months of growing so alot of us need to harvest early before the frost hits or grow autos indoors during april then move outdoors at the end of june

oh btw in my earlier comment when i said "before the frost hits", that is pure eastcoast, "hits" lol

if i WAS U i wouldent do no breeding with auto flowers thats just fuckin up the geno pool in one way or another.. just buy yourseld indica auto flowers and u should be good

i will eventually but for now i will grow these and see how they grow next year, and im always gonna grow for some seed on a branch or 2 so i may as well make my own strain while im at it. i was thinking of lowryder cause i read that can grow in the northwest territories in northern canada so i will need to get that strain.