People are exclusively products of their environment!

We TaRdED

We TaRdED

Well-Known Member
whats your thoughts about the title? just something that came to mind, im roasted like a peanut, baked as a cake, high as a kite right now!!!! word, you can quote that if you want!!!! lol or rep that shyt! so whats your beliefs on the title? should stir up some shyt with controversy. go ahead, im broke i could use your 2 cents right now!:peace:
 
WRONG!
for years people have argued over whether humans are product of their environment or if they are predetermined to be who they are
it is equal balance
a man can be born with psychopathic tendencies but his environment can determine whether he will enact upon these tendencies
 
MyNameIsHead said:
it is equal balance
a man can be born with psychopathic tendencies
Click to expand...

how can a man be born with psychopathic tendencies? where would that tendencies come from? would it come from the mothers stress while being in the womb? genetics? these are both products of environment.

equal balance, you are talking about a persons free will vs other influences? let me ask you this, what dictates a mans free will? do you think the environment of which this person lives does not have a huge influence on a persons "free will"? im talking about from the time a person was conceived to the present day. or do you believe free will is solely dependent on nothing and ppl are who they are reguardless the situation they were brought up in.

what im saying here is free will is created and molded by a persons perception of their environment and/or basically their conscious.
 
genetics are not products of your environment
when referring to the famous psychological argument (nature vs nurture) the discussion we are having now environment isnt never meant to pertain to nature environment is meant to refer to ones surroundings

i believe we act on urges because of both free will and the forces around us
people take in every single thing that they see hear and experience in their life and they cram it in their brain and what comes out is their personality
the consistent patterns and unique behaviors of one person that is differing them from others
you might have someone around the world that is 99% your personality but no one is 100% the same as you
free will is not created thats why its called free will not commands
what we do with the information we take in is the free will part. two kids decided to shoot up their school because they were picked on, another fact is they loved video games. so they were picked on and that gave them motivation and the video games gave them training
i was picked on a bit as a kid for my funny last name, and i love video games, and extremely violent ones are my favorite
but i have never shot up my school
the up bringing of those kids were more than satisfactory including the bullying
there is no reason other than their free will that they did this

so therefor there is a balance between nature and nurture
 
MyNameIsHead said:
genetics are not products of your environment when referring to the famous psychological argument (nature vs nurture) the discussion we are having now environment isnt never meant to pertain to nature environment is meant to refer to ones surroundings
Click to expand...

ohh ya? says who? children are always products of their environments. even b4 birth, for example, mom and dad have sex two cells come together, products of environment. if that environment wasnt there there would be no baby byproduct.......

MyNameIsHead said:
i believe we act on urges because of both free will and the forces around us
people take in every single thing that they see hear and experience in their life and they cram it in their brain and what comes out is their personality
the consistent patterns and unique behaviors of one person that is differing them from others
you might have someone around the world that is 99% your personality but no one is 100% the same as you
free will is not created thats why its called free will not commands
what we do with the information we take in is the free will part. two kids decided to shoot up their school because they were picked on, another fact is they loved video games. so they were picked on and that gave them motivation and the video games gave them training
i was picked on a bit as a kid for my funny last name, and i love video games, and extremely violent ones are my favorite
but i have never shot up my school
the up bringing of those kids were more than satisfactory including the bullying
there is no reason other than their free will that they did this

so therefor there is a balance between nature and nurture
Click to expand...

they did the killing because of environmental influential factors. yes they had a choice, but because of these environmental influential factors they took it to the limit. for example, if they didnt get picked on they wouldnt be in that situation, maybe if they didnt play video games they wouldnt have the "training". both environmental influences that once it built up to a certain point they exploded- which is the product of their environment.

all im saying is that is that people use stored information from their past(past environmental influences) to help make present decisions. if they had a differernt past they would have a different "free will".

just look at religious wars, alot of ppl fought with their own free will. they believed that what they were doing was right because of the their peoples consensus/peer pressure. even thought no one might have been directly pressuring them.

these are just my opinions btw, as i have no proof to what im writing, im just stoned.
 
wtf are you talking about religious wars? in the inquisition if you didnt fight with the catholic church you were tortured to death! thats direct fucking pressure!
thats like saying slavery isnt direct pressure

there is no such thing as nature vs nurture only nature and nurture
they work inter connectedly and work as one
you cant have one without the other
peoples actions are based on both their environment and their predetermined personality
 
MyNameIsHead said:
dude we are high and we are debating about extremely important stuff!
Click to expand...

whats your thoughts about the title? just something that came to mind, im roasted like a peanut, baked as a cake right now!!!! word, you can quote that if you want!!!! lol or rep that shyt! so whats your beliefs on the title? should stir up some shyt with controversy. go ahead, im broke i could use your 2 cents right now!:peace:


Intelligent debating is fine in my books, but wtf? lol:hump:
 
ganji2 said:
Lol, oh shut the fuck up!
Click to expand...

wow... ok, you didnt have to read this. do you have an input? if not, then read or dont read. no need to be mean.

MyNameIsHead said:
wtf are you talking about religious wars? in the inquisition if you didnt fight with the catholic church you were tortured to death! thats direct fucking pressure!
thats like saying slavery isnt direct pressure

there is no such thing as nature vs nurture only nature and nurture
they work inter connectedly and work as one
you cant have one without the other
peoples actions are based on both their environment and their predetermined personality
Click to expand...


well ya, im not saying everyone fought with their free will but some!

just look at the weed plant for example.

seeds(not femm) are products of a a male and female breeding,....... which, then it has predetermined genetics. for this plant to reach its full potential(in our eyes) it needs to be in an optimal environment. if you grow it in bad conditions you might not get good weed if any at all. same with ppl except with behaviors and appearances/your body.

so in short a seed, and it genetics, are products of the parents environment, if the parents didnt have the environment to breed then there would be no product/seeds. a plants health is a direct product related to its environment. if a plant get mistreated the plant suffers and thus is exclusively a product of its environment. same with ppl in my opinion!:blsmoke::blsmoke:


i kinda wrote the same thing in my last two paragraphs but its good to reiterate sometiems to get your point across.
 
Intelligent debating is fine in my books, but wtf? lol:hump:


yo, youve never been stoned and not so intelligent? plus a guy cant have fun, i thought that was pretty clever myself :D

i forgot- high as a kite... fock.... ill edit it and put it in there for fun.
 
when you are referring to environment in this sense it doesn't mean our physical environment like my house or the optimal environment for my eyes
its talking about where my parents good did i go to a good school as a kid was i bullied was i molested
thats our environment when referring to it in this argument and therefor you are making a moot point that is in fact wrong to begin with
plants dont have brains like humans we arent talking about plants
say im born with a predisposition to cancer
i have a son
he dies of cancer
it wasnt because his nurture it was because of his nature
but when billy went and shot johnny for calling him names that would be a mix of both because his father might have have severe psychotic problems and passed it on to his son or he was never taught shooting someone was bad
nature and nurture my friend
 
sure my the is a moot point, im not looking for facts just enlightenment. :D

nature and nurture are not environmental factors that would give a person a different disposition and appearance? or i could substitute the words disposition and appearance for the word "product"!

sure plants dont have brains but, the same applies to alot of creatures which have brains... no? plentiful environment means healthy happy animals.

look at evolution.-for example a good case of product of environment. as the world changed the animals need(ed) to adapt to their surroundings in order to survive or else die.

im glad your debating with me head, the more point of views the more enlightenment!:mrgreen:
 
im really not familiar about the nature/nurture thing your talking about. i never went to school for sociology, and have no back round in it. :blsmoke:
 
I dont know would you compare your self to a package of candy? Then maybe you are a product of your enviroment. I think people think to much about what they cant change and it makes them look like lost dogs.

People do it to themselves cant blame the enviroment. Next time you look at a homless guy look real hard and go look at a stray dog same thing. Just ones a dog ones a human how you choose to feel about it is all you. You can make yourself a product.
 
you are a product of your enviornment. this doesnt mean you reflect what is around you. it can be positive or negative. example a child whose parents are drug addicted criminals. it can go both ways . he can be influenced to follow in their footsteps or he can see the dire situation for what it is and make a change in his own life to be better than what hes seen or been around. a strong will is what it takes to become who you should be .
 
boooky said:
I dont know would you compare your self to a package of candy? Then maybe you are a product of your enviroment. I think people think to much about what they cant change and it makes them look like lost dogs.

People do it to themselves cant blame the enviroment. Next time you look at a homless guy look real hard and go look at a stray dog same thing. Just ones a dog ones a human how you choose to feel about it is all you. You can make yourself a product.
Click to expand...

package of candy? what?

ya your right, im not that high anymore....... damn that shit was good. i guess i was ranting and thinking too much. weed can do that to me. later.:peace:
 
rezo said:
you are a product of your enviornment. this doesnt mean you reflect what is around you. it can be positive or negative. example a child whose parents are drug addicted criminals. it can go both ways . he can be influenced to follow in their footsteps or he can see the dire situation for what it is and make a change in his own life to be better than what hes seen or been around. a strong will is what it takes to become who you should be .
Click to expand...

Im not a prostitute so im not a product I dont sell my self...People act the way they do because they want to not because of crack or because mommy did this. Because they sat down and said "hey imma smoke some crack" had nothing to do with mommy or daddy if they BLAME mommy for that then thats a issue with them self not mommy.

People can say people are products of enviroment whatever. Even if you took away his mommy and daddy chances are he/she wants some crack still. We would all act the same and be smoking crack if this "product of enviroment" was true.

Just my thoughts on it though I mean you ask a room full of crack heads sure they will blame their enviroment because they dont blame themselves for anything. Hence why they smoke crack.....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Coz the Shroom
the kind of insanity I get into when I'm on tolerance break.
Replies
0
Views
962
Coz the Shroom
Coz the Shroom
S
Are my notes correct? Please assist me in changes
2 3
Replies
54
Views
8K
Smokenpassout
S
Emry
Wow found my password a decade later.
Replies
7
Views
833
uporg1990
uporg1990
C
Greetings, OneLove, and Peace from a lost soul....
Replies
2
Views
963
BarnBuster
BarnBuster
Charles U Farley
Heaven, Hell, and the Devil aren't real, but God is?
10 11 12
Replies
237
Views
32K
StonedGardener
StonedGardener
Back
Top