PCK Crosses.... Open Forum

kneecapman

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Let me begin this by saying that breeding is not something new in America, even though the laws are just starting to make it possible for people to attempt breeding projects. There are several noted breeders in California due to the fact that they have had medical marijuana laws a lot longer than other states. They have more relaxed plant count policies to, allowing for more flexibility when it comes to selection. Selection is the single thing holding most people back from breeding successfully in America today. You get what you get, you grow what you are aloud to grow, and you have to pay your bills. The first problem is that you have to include a male plant in your plant count. Before you even know you have a male plant, you have to grow many seeds. Then you have to sex the plants, and get rid of plants you can't use. This could cost growers time, plant allowance, and money. You can't do S's because you need to have something on production just to pay for the lights. So I understand all of this and I am with anyone who is bitching at me for running a breeding program when my plant limit is 36. Having said that, I will also say, this is an Open Forum WITH RULES. Advice and general bullshitting is aloud. If you are breeding with PCK, YOU CAN POST ANY AND ALL OF YOUR JOURNAL HERE. PCK CROSSES ONLY. I will not tolerate the following: Name Calling, Badgering, Talking about other breeding projects, talking about breeding in general, without having any connection to PCK breeding.

Question: How Long Have You Been A Breeder?

Answer: 20 years. Sure, I missed some seasons and opportunities, but I am always studying and reading other breeders' notes, especially american breeders and a couple of old school Dutch breeders.

That's all folks...
 
Here we go. If you check out my account, I also have a complete journal WIP where I cross Apollo 13 with PCK. That project is behind the Cheese x PCK, in fact, I already have 2 Female Cheese x PCK 2 months in veg. The Apollo 13 is 4 weeks from harvest, but it has been pollinated. The future for this thread for me will involve White Lightning x PCK and Church x PCK. Those I know for sure because I am about to harvest the buds next week. I have plenty of PCK pollen left, so I am considering crossing it with LA Confidential, Kryptonite, Bubblegum, and Strawberry Cough. I need those plants for cash right now though, and the last thing medicine needs in it is seeds. If I do anything it will be crossing it with the LA Confidential because I took those genetics out of my program. An LA Confidential x PCK cross would be awesome, but not right now. The Cheese x PCK story goes something like this:

Cheese x PCK

Greenhouse Seed Co’s Cheese x Canabiogen PCK (Green Pheno)

After running this Feminized Cheese from a mixed seedpack from GHS, I was not very impressed by the stature of the plant. It grows like a lot of GHS creations, stretchy branches that grow out from the bottom or center of the stalk. The majority of them ended up having hardly anything on them. The main cola itself was not that impressive. The small yield discouraged me from running more than one or two at a time. The bud itself, however, is superb. The aromas and flavors that this plant produces is something special.

The PCK 10 pack I originally popped last summer got little attention because of my hectic schedule. I did retain a clone of a male plant and a superb Purple Pheno female. The male ended up yielding me a large quantity of pollen. The male itself was of the Green Pheno family of PCK plants. PCK is an inbred line that has about a dozen different dominate phenotypes in the family. For example, you may get a purple female or a green female. From what I have seen and read, there are several variations of the purple pheno when it comes to females. Most of these differences seem to center around the growth patterns of the individual colas, which may result in consistently larger yields for certain purples compared to others. The green females (I have never had one) reportedly have heavier and more potent yields.

I pollinated the original mother plant of the Cheese with incidental pollen on a neighboring plant that was pollinated fully. There was less than ten seeds from the Cheese. I germinated them in early November.
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I planted them as soon as they popped, 11/10/12. There was other seeds planted to, only 2 of the Cheese x PCK made it.
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The only one is the back left. A week later, everything started filling in… can’t tell which is the Cheese x PCK but they are in there somewhere ;)
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They were slow coming out of the gate, but the stalk developed really thick and the overall stretch was a perfect middle of the road. They were transplanted into 3 gallon pots on 12/10/12.
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They are the two pots in the middle. One is a slight shade darker green than the other, and the darker one has a lot more growth. There is also more pink and purple flushing on the stems. I have been bending these plants since the beginning to try to get some of the branching at the top to thicken up and keep even with the top itself. Notice the number of leaf blades. One month old and there is already 11 blade leaves. The pic below illustrates the differences in green tone and overall growth… Also noted is the leaves themselves. They have the broad Indica profile like the PCK with sharp ridges and pointy tips, as borrowed from the Cheese mother. I don’t know what else to say at the moment… in week 5 the darker one revealed that it was a female, as there were the hairs on the bottom of new shoots at the top of the plant. About three days later, the lighter one revealed its sex, also a female. 2 for 2, not bad…
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About a week later…
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The darker, branchier one up close:
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Her sister up close…
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Those shots were not up close enough to see the hairs. Here are some shots of the hairs…
First is the more robust, darker girl, with flash
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Without flash:
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Here are the ladyparts:
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And here is a shot of a Broad Leaf:
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Then a flash shot of the lighter green girl. She has a much thicker stalk, the FIM I did during week 2 worked a lot better than her sister, but the top bend didn’t pull as thick of branches as the first girl.
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Flash shot from above:
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No Flash shot from above…
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The pistils on this one had a strange pink tint to them… hmmmmm….
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Now that we have established that we are both females, let’s celebrate! Here is a broad leaf from the lighter green girl:
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It is hard to tell in these pics, you just have to believe me. The pink/purple hazing in the stems and the leaf hearts are about even in both plants, although the darker one exhibited color change first (like, in week 2)… the lighter one has more subtle hues of red in the leaf heatrs, more red than purple, and as mentioned earlier, there is a noticeable but really faint pink glow to the pistils. The most recent pics above mark 8 weeks since these seeds were put in the dirt. I know this is a pipedream of a project, but I have been very lucky so far. To me, this leaf looks like someone took a PCK leaf and re-cut the ridges on the sides of the leaves to look more like cheese ridges. The little curl at the end of the leaf is definitely something you see on a Cheese plant. The heart of the leaf, where all the leaf blades come together, looks almost exactly like a PCK heart.
 
Here is an updated pic... they are now numbered, the more robust one getting the Number 1 tag and the other one Number 2.
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