PCAnywhere Software Installed On Voting Machines Since 2000

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4ezy/top-voting-machine-vendor-admits-it-installed-remote-access-software-on-systems-sold-to-states


Excerpt:
“Certainly, [Diebold Election Systems] did the same, and I'd assume the others did too,” he told Motherboard. “In the case of [Diebold], many of their contracts with customers included the requirement of a remote-login port allowing [the company] to have remote access to the customer system in order to allow customer support.”

Holy shit. Why the fuck aren't we using paper ballots and holding them for 3 years to facilitate recounts and verification?! Because those who want to control the results of the voting process like it this way.

More evidence of the failed State known as the United States of America.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4ezy/top-voting-machine-vendor-admits-it-installed-remote-access-software-on-systems-sold-to-states


Excerpt:
“Certainly, [Diebold Election Systems] did the same, and I'd assume the others did too,” he told Motherboard. “In the case of [Diebold], many of their contracts with customers included the requirement of a remote-login port allowing [the company] to have remote access to the customer system in order to allow customer support.”

Holy shit. Why the fuck aren't we using paper ballots and holding them for 3 years to facilitate recounts and verification?! Because those who want to control the results of the voting process like it this way.

More evidence of the failed State known as the United States of America.
So @ttystikk , what did you think of Mr. Putin's suggestion?
 

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4ezy/top-voting-machine-vendor-admits-it-installed-remote-access-software-on-systems-sold-to-states


Excerpt:
“Certainly, [Diebold Election Systems] did the same, and I'd assume the others did too,” he told Motherboard. “In the case of [Diebold], many of their contracts with customers included the requirement of a remote-login port allowing [the company] to have remote access to the customer system in order to allow customer support.”

Holy shit. Why the fuck aren't we using paper ballots and holding them for 3 years to facilitate recounts and verification?! Because those who want to control the results of the voting process like it this way.

More evidence of the failed State known as the United States of America.
Mitt Romney's son Tag owns a bunch.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4ezy/top-voting-machine-vendor-admits-it-installed-remote-access-software-on-systems-sold-to-states


Excerpt:
“Certainly, [Diebold Election Systems] did the same, and I'd assume the others did too,” he told Motherboard. “In the case of [Diebold], many of their contracts with customers included the requirement of a remote-login port allowing [the company] to have remote access to the customer system in order to allow customer support.”

Holy shit. Why the fuck aren't we using paper ballots and holding them for 3 years to facilitate recounts and verification?! Because those who want to control the results of the voting process like it this way.

More evidence of the failed State known as the United States of America.
Leave "we" out of it for me. Oregon has mail-in paper ballots. It's the Republican controlled states that are most riddled with paperless ballots.

Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Virginia.

Damn those Democrats. Right, tty?
 
Last edited:

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
If Tty ever voted, he would realize that, even with most electronic voting systems, paper records are kept.

This is a classic example of Tty's favorite move, and one favored by idiots worldwide, note some thing and assert that it proves something it doesn't.

Another "active duty" thread.

C- for this one Tty. Slight improvement.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
Ok, so I have more time and attention to show, once again, that @ttystikk, as usual, doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about.

Ok, so the article points out that Diebold Elections installed PcAnywhere on computers used in the election process (not voting machines mind you, but ones that actually load the ballot choices so there is not that much difference). I maintain that this act does not create any additional risk to the election system. At no point in the article does it say that PcAnywhere is enabled in host mode as a matter of course - and, in fact, it is not. Tty, in his infinite ignorance, does not understand that the only way PcAnywhere could be used to affect the process would be to enable host mode. If a hacker could enable host mode on PcAnywhere, that hacker already has sufficient access to do whatever they want to the computer without using PcAnywhere! "Full stop". There would be no reason for them to use PcAnywhere whatsoever as it would be much more simple to introduce a myriad of other, more clandestine software to achieve their purposes.

The fact that Tty does not understand (because he does not take time out from his organizizing to actually vote) is that the typical "electronic voting" system (I am intimately familiar with most of them but not all of them) has a paper scroll printer attached to each one. Every single voter is instructed to check the paper printout, page by page, to ensure that their choice was recorded accurately. This printout is the backup hard copy that the local board of elections keeps in order to verify the vote. While the computer tallies the vote, the printout is the vote! If any recount is called or discrepancy found, this printout is the official record. There is no known software that can change ink on paper.

Now let's take the case of one of the election boards that uses paper ballots... Every one of them uses an electronic counter to count the tally from the actual ballots. Doing so is far quicker and more accurate than having local election judges doing it by hand - it has not been done that way in decades. When it was, elections were far less secure than they are now as local election boards were capable of stacking local election officials to just simply lie about the vote and count a paper ballot cast for one candidate as a vote for their preferred candidate. The use of electronic counters (aka computers) does not facilitate voter fraud, it guards against it. Now, when a poll that uses paper ballots closes, the ballots are sealed in a bag rather than being thumbed over by a half a dozen people. Whether the official record consists of a large pile of ballots or a neat scroll of inked paper that has been verified by every single voter is an invidious distinction that only the uninformed would make.

Do risks to the election process exist? Yes! They always have. Should we talk about it? Yes, and we do - constantly! Is there any risk to the system by Diebold installing PcAnywhere on PCs used in the election process? Not really. Was it a dumb move on Diebold's part? Probably, yes, mostly from a PR perspective as it makes them a target for sensationalized stories that appeal to dilettantes such as Tty.

But does any of this support Tty's running around, as usual, waving his hands in the air and screaming that the sky is falling? As usual, no. Tty likes to take little factoids that he does not understand, shape them into the worldview he has already settled on and then present them to us as his homework. In this case, he has invoked his bestest, most favorite conclusion the "America is a failing state" - as if every nation on earth is not grappling with the issue of how best to run an election and always has.

Tty, you are a poor student. I invite you to present me factual evidence to the contrary. Show me evidence of how the vote in America is at risk. Please feel free to use other countries as a benchmark.

You won't seriously answer this post - because you can't. You'll just fling insults like "divisive liberal" or "clown" or "ballwasher" because it is all you have. You are just a symptom of what is going on around us and you are being used as a useful, narcissistic, idiot by those who seek to destroy us in your quest for a system that best represents you rather than finding the best one possible given the current circumstances. You are a walking, talking, blathering, foaming example that the "perfect" is the enemy of the good.
 
Last edited:

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Whether voting tallies are accurate or not, doesn't matter. An honest tallying to determine who gets to do immoral things is like sending a sympathy card to your murder victims family.

The thing which matters is, where does a majority of people, all of whom as individuals have zero right to forcibly determine what other neutral people will do, (zero right) acquire a sum greater than zero when all of their individual zeroes are aggregated?
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Whether voting tallies are accurate or not, doesn't matter. An honest tallying to determine who gets to do immoral things is like sending a sympathy card to your murder victims family.

The thing which matters is, where does a majority of people, all of whom as individuals have zero right to forcibly determine what other neutral people will do, (zero right) acquire a sum greater than zero when all of their individual zeroes are aggregated?
give your land back to its rightful owners.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
But, the dinosaurs are all dead.

Didn't think you'd touch the content of my post.

I fucking ignore your post. You all talk and can't even walk the walk.
Tell me again how you sent your kids to public schools. Tell me again how you still pay property taxes. Tell me again how you file your taxes, tell me again how you use all services create using tax money. Guy you all fucking talk. Now hit me with another meme to show how fucking stuck you are.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
I fucking ignore your post. You all talk and can't even walk the walk.
Tell me again how you sent your kids to public schools. Tell me again how you still pay property taxes. Tell me again how you file your taxes, tell me again how you use all services create using tax money. Guy you all fucking talk. Now hit me with another meme to show how fucking stuck you are.

Did you get your dick stuck in a vacuum cleaner hose again? You seem a little grumpy.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Did you get your dick stuck in a vacuum cleaner hose again? You seem a little grumpy.
You all talk. You would think you would have done something by now, but of course the only thing you do is pay your taxes.
What is worst a slave who knows he is a slave but does nothing about it or a person who is a slave and does not realize it ?
 

Srirachi

Well-Known Member
Two pundits are talking about who supports their party the most completely.

The Republican says "Even though he was not that bright, I voted for Bush... twice!"

The Democrat replies "That's nothing... Even though she is a felon, I voted for Hillary... SIX times!"
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Two pundits are talking about who supports their party the most completely.

The Republican says "Even though he was not that bright, I voted for Bush... twice!"

The Democrat replies "That's nothing... Even though she is a felon, I voted for Hillary... SIX times!"
at least try to type shit that is funny if not true. If I ever get banned from a site, I wouldn't even fuck with the site anymore.
Principals and shit. I guess some bitches don't have a real life
 

TacoMac

Well-Known Member
A complete non-issue.

They used remote software to set them up and make sure they worked. Once polling stations are set up, they are disconnected from the internet, thus rendering the software useless. All data is then transferred to hard drives and transported to the main polling center for processing. Nothing is done over the internet.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
A complete non-issue.

They used remote software to set them up and make sure they worked. Once polling stations are set up, they are disconnected from the internet, thus rendering the software useless. All data is then transferred to hard drives and transported to the main polling center for processing. Nothing is done over the internet.
naive is a weapon for the stupid
 
Top