Oxygenate Soiless Reservoir 24/7 or just before fertigation? Pros and Cons?


I don’t know about stupid. But no matter how long anyone “grows”, new things can always be discovered. I’ve grown for a while yet always keep an empty cupattitude. Either way check that link out and you tell me.

and perhaps. Justwonder how long is “a while”. Useing blumat a at least there is no quick flow. It could take hours for a drop of water to work it’s way through those hoses.
lol. Can I get a link to "What the Bleep Do We Know?!" so that I can further buy into new age BS? Do you know, The Secret?
 
Now if this was a gravity fed system where the water is merely topping up coco then understandably water agitation may be worth it but when it’s a pump that’s capable of 450 litres per hour that’s sucking in the solution 3x a day to deliver to drippers and the EC remains stable whenever it’s tested I ask again @bk78 what problems have you found?

Laughing responses without any follow up doesn’t count. Lol.

were you laughing at the fact I don’t know what kool aid is or are you laughing at the fact I think a pump delivering solution to plants is still doing some mixing in the res?

just by physics, a device that removes liquid from a container into another container is moving the liquid as the liquid isn’t stationary and you cant remove all the liquid from the bottom because the rest of the liquid moves too.

otherwise you would be able to withdraw the liquid out leaving a gap with no other liquid moving to take it’s place.
 
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lol. Can I get a link to "What the Bleep Do We Know?!" so that I can further buy into new age BS? Do you know, The Secret?

Just so I'm not sounding like an unfounded hater of mystics:

"Commentators have criticized Emoto for insufficient experimental controls and for not sharing enough details of his experiments with the scientific community.[9][17] He has been criticized for designing his experiments in ways that permit manipulation or human error.[9][18] Biochemist and Director of Microscopy at University College Cork William Reville wrote, "It is very unlikely that there is any reality behind Emoto's claims."[9] Reville noted the lack of scientific publication and pointed out that anyone who could demonstrate such phenomenae would become immediately famous and probably wealthy.[9]

Writing about Emoto's ideas in the Skeptical Inquirer, physician Harriet A. Hall concluded that it was "hard to see how anyone could mistake it for science".[5] In 2003, James Randi published an invitation on his website, offering Emoto to take the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, in which Emoto could have received US$1,000,000 if he had been able to reproduce the experiment under test conditions agreed to by both parties. Randi did not receive a response.[19]"
 
Now if this was a gravity fed system where the water is merely topping up coco then understandably water agitation may be worth it but when it’s a pump that’s capable of 450 litres per hour that’s sucking in the solution 3x a day to deliver to drippers and the EC remains stable whenever it’s tested I ask again @bk78 what problems have you found?

Laughing responses without any follow up doesn’t count. Lol.

were you laughing at the fact I don’t know what kool aid is or are you laughing at the fact I think a pump delivering solution to plants is still doing some mixing in the res?

just by physics, a device that removes liquid from a container into another container is moving the liquid as the liquid isn’t stationary and you cant remove all the liquid from the bottom because the rest of the liquid moves too.

otherwise you would be able to withdraw the liquid out leaving a gap with no other liquid moving to take it’s place.


Sorry I’m at work, I’ll read your triggered, cry baby post when I’m home.

It’s amazing how a little smiley face on the interwebz upsets you so much.

Now go have a tea and a crumpet and await my reply :-)
 
Sorry I’m at work, I’ll read your triggered, cry baby post when I’m home.

It’s amazing how a little smiley face on the interwebz upsets you so much.

Now go have a tea and a crumpet and await my reply :-)

Not triggered bud. Looking for people’s experiences and not speculations.
 
Out of interest why not?

when I was in a full hydro system (Wilma) I was oxygenating and again as you all have noticed was dealing with pH daily.

now that I am drip DTW coco from a res I haven’t been mixing it and every time I test it it’s reading where it was set


My “theory” is that the pump is running 3x a day during light hours pulling in the solution so it’s getting a form of mixing 3x a day where the solution is actively moving in the res.

obviously the benefits of a water pump to agitate and get some dissolved O in to the water is a good thing.

but has anyone seen what happens besides the film on top you get when there is zero movement ( there’s no film on the top of mine )?

And this is not a Dickish thing.

Truly interested if there is an actual answer to this rather than speculation?

I'm not so much worried about oxygen in the drips from the blumats but I'll mix up 15 gallons of solution and it can take a week for that to get used. I do it more for keeping the reservoir mixed up and fresh. If I didn't have a pump circulating the solution it will get nasty after a few days.

This is what I'm referring to. Nothing elaborate just a small pond pump on the bottom with the outflow facing up. It creates surface displacement exposing more of the solution to air while at the same time keeping it well mixed.

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I’ve done it both ways. I would love to see some research on this. My commen sense tells me the minute water stops being agitated the DO levels are gunna drop right back to normal levels. I guess the only way to test is testing the oxygenated Rez then testing the water as it comes out the blumats.

I tend to think h2o stays the same. It doesn’t become h2o2. Once the bubbling stops it’s still the samewater. I think “blessing” the water might have more impact of molecular makeup than bubbling.

not saying it’s a bad thing to move a Rez around but I just don’t think it adds extra oxygen to roots. I’m pretty sure roots take oxygen in As a gas anyway so what would dissolved oxygen help anyway? Open to debate, I’m bored at work today…

I can't find it but I did read a study where they found more DO in a tank that used a pump on the bottom facing up rather than multiple air stones. I guess the theory is that when the water is constantly recirculating from bottom to top more water comes in contact with air than does with the small bubbles from the airstones. More contact with air equals more DO entering the liquid.

I wish I could find the link. I'd do some research myself but I'm not spending $600 for a dissolved oxygen meter to see the results. I'll look around later and see if I can't find that study. It was a legitimate study not something from some cannabis website.
 
I can't find it but I did read a study where they found more DO in a tank that used a pump on the bottom facing up rather than multiple air stones. I guess the theory is that when the water is constantly recirculating from bottom to top more water comes in contact with air than does with the small bubbles from the airstones. More contact with air equals more DO entering the liquid.

I wish I could find the link. I'd do some research myself but I'm not spending $600 for a dissolved oxygen meter to see the results. I'll look around later and see if I can't find that study. It was a legitimate study not something from some cannabis website.
I had one meter once. Long gone now wish I kept better track of my shit. Would love to see the study
 
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