Overwatering Plants Anonymous!

highonbud · Apr 8, 2011

Enough with the Over watering!!! your plants don't need watered 24/7!

Plants love water don't get me wrong. but when your becoming the Water boy keeping them Hydrated with h2o...

The Signs of an over watered plant are:

Lower leaves are yellow
Plant looks wilted
Roots will be rotting or stunted
No new growth
Young leaves will turn brown
Soil will appear green (which is algae)

The signs of plants affected by too much water are very similar to plants that have too little water.

Now being water boy to your plants can have devastating results if you don't know what doing.

The Reason why plants are affected by too much water is that plants need to breath. They breath through their roots and when there is too much water, the roots cannot take in gases. It is actually slowly suffocating when there is too much water for a plant.

The How can you over water plants? Normally this happens when a plant owner is too attentive to their plants or if there is a drainage problem. How can you tell plants have enough water? Feel the top of the soil before you water. If the soil is damp, the plant does not need more water. Water only when the soil surface is dry.

if you find that your plant has a drainage problem that is causing too much water for a plant than correct this issue as soon as possible. :joint:

This may have you asking If you over water a plant, will it still grow? Yes, it can still grow, provided that the issue that caused too much water for the plant is corrected. If you suspect that you have plants affected by too much water, address the problems as quickly as possible so that you can save your plant.

Now we've covered the Signs, the reason, and the how.

so if your still at the water boy gig get on your lawn mower and ride home to fix this problem of your plants being Over-Hydrated.

Silky Shagsalot · Apr 8, 2011

highonbud said:
Enough with the Over watering!!! your plants don't need watered 24/7!

Lower leaves are yellow

Plant looks wilted

Roots will be rotting or stunted

No new growth

Young leaves will turn brown

Soil will appear green (which is algae)

The signs of plants affected by too much water are very similar to plants that have too little water.
Now being water boy to your plants can have devastating results if you don't know what doing.

The Reason why plants are affected by too much water is that plants need to breath. They breath through their roots and when there is too much water, the roots cannot take in gases. It is actually slowly suffocating when there is too much water for a plant.

i like your post, but have some comments. lower leaves yellowing, not really. that is a sign of nitrogen deficiency, not overwatering. plant looks wilted, right on! just like when under-watered. roots rotting/stunted, not unless this is a long going drug out behavior. no new growth, again, not unless a problem that is an on-going drawn out issue. the medium appearing green can happen in any number of mediums. and happens to me in coco nearly every time...

Zaehet Strife · Apr 8, 2011

Silky Shagsalot said:
i like your post, but have some comments. lower leaves yellowing, not really. that is a sign of nitrogen deficiency, not overwatering. plant looks wilted, right on! just like when under-watered. roots rotting/stunted, not unless this is a long going drug out behavior. no new growth, again, not unless a problem that is an on-going drawn out issue. the medium appearing green can happen in any number of mediums. and happens to me in coco nearly every time...

yellowing leaves toward the bottom is also a sign of rootbound, a sign of overwatering, a sign of unstable PH, also a sign of plant not getting enough of something or getting too much of something. telling someone that yellowing of lower leaves is only from nitrogen deficiency is a comment based on personal opinion rather than personal experimentation or fact.

as i just transplanted one of my babes i noticed some green tint to the perlite on the lower part of the roots, was wondering what that could be, but ive also seen my perlite turn green on the top soil, maybe because of the light not sure... algea seems like a reasonable explanation, but ill do my own tests to see what it really is, but thank you for the insight.

really like the thread man + rep im sure it will help people struggling from over/underwatering problems

im sure the reason why you started this thread is because over/underwatering was something you had a hard time with, so doing your own experiment to see how it really works is the only way to figure it out. props bro

Silky Shagsalot · Apr 8, 2011

Zaehet Strife said:
telling someone that yellowing of lower leaves is only from nitrogen deficiency is a comment based on personal opinion rather than personal experimentation or fact.

lol, this is based on both personal opinion and personal experiences. isn't that what these forums are all about, sharing these experiences??? also, plants being root-bound is a farce!! what do you think keeping plants small (as in a sog grow) is all about? as long as all of the plants nutritional and environmental needs are being met, the root-mass is of no consequence, thus, no such thing as plants being root-bound.... you're up professor, lol....

Kingrow1 · Apr 8, 2011

Just a thought but if you over water won't you create a nute lockout or unability to transfer nutes from the soil to the plant? Wouldn't nitrogen be the first nute to lockout? I don't know and am only asking.

Zaehet Strife · Apr 8, 2011

Silky Shagsalot said:
lol, this is based on both personal opinion and personal experiences. isn't that what these forums are all about, sharing these experiences??? also, plants being root-bound is a farce!! what do you think keeping plants small (as in a sog grow) is all about? as long as all of the plants nutritional and environmental needs are being met, the root-mass is of no consequence, thus, no such thing as plants being root-bound.... you're up professor, lol....

sharing experiences yes, but people need to be able to separate fact from misinformation or opinion. they only way to do that is through personal experimentation, what im all about.. learning and doing something different every single grow.

just did a thread on this, brick top and uncle ben both agree with me that rootbound plants exist. i am in the middle of doing more experiments on this.

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-m...real-truth-about-rootbound-transplanting.html

yes again i say the only way to truly know yourself is to try it out yourself, take an extra couple plants you dont care about (like i have before) over water one the whole time, underwater one the whole time and watch what happens to them. when/if you read that rootbound thread youll see the lengths i go to prove to myself what is right and wrong. one of my previous grows really suffered because my plants were rootbound, and that is why i chose to do that experiment. no im not a better grower, i just do experimentation before i come to my own conclusion about things.

i would never try to tell someone i know something without trying it out myself, made that mistake before.. listening to people try to tell me rootbound plants dont exist.

your not stupid, just ignorant of the facts

i actually have a couple extra girls still in 16oz solo cups, if you need me to start another under/overwatering experiment for you i do not mind at all... just useing them as a basis for letting people know what rootbound plants do and how they react to different degrees of rootbound.

dont think i know what im talking about? thats ok, your grows will suffer because of it. if this makes you mad, try the experiment out for yourself and you will find out.

Zaehet Strife · Apr 8, 2011

transition between pictures 10 and 11- been 10 days since the transplant

the second transplant was 16 days after the original transplant, try to tell me those roots arent fighting for surface area

sorry about being an asshole man, but this kids thread is legit. mad props to him for actually doing an experiment.

also yellowing of lower fan leaves could be from spider mites, there are just so many different things that can happen to make leaves turn yellow man, its not JUST nit/def, thats very ignorant of you to say...in my opinion.

highonbud · Apr 8, 2011

Much appreciated Zaehet I have done an experiment yes. but the Reason I posted this was because people I know over-water there plants and it really gets to me when they ask "why did it die" and then well maybe cause you watered it every hour. I have had problems in the past with this using Rockwool
I only posted the signs, the reason and the how, only because its that simple if your plants show the signs of being overwatered take it easy on the watering. A person can drowned in only two table spoons of water.
-Highonbud

IVIars · Apr 8, 2011

I know rootbound is possible, but your pics look like the roots were growing to the water. Almost like putting a 5 gal bucket in a 3in water tray, and filling the tray for water. the roots will grow to the water. I just transplanted from 1/2 gal to 5 gal, and roots were all over the pot, not just the bottom

Zaehet Strife · Apr 8, 2011

IVIars said:
I know rootbound is possible, but your pics look like the roots were growing to the water. Almost like putting a 5 gal bucket in a 3in water tray, and filling the tray for water. the roots will grow to the water. I just transplanted from 1/2 gal to 5 gal, and roots were all over the pot, not just the bottom

if i would have let her stay in the pot for longer it would eventually become more and more rootbound, there are different degrees of rootbound depending on how long you leave them in the pots. the longer you leave them in the more they will fill out (grow up and down the sides of the pot) i decided to transplant mine before it got too bad, trying to keep it as healthy as i possably can, the less rootbound the bigger the plant.

but very nice, the roots grow torward the bottom of the pot most because the bottom of the pot holds the most water for the longest, also cannabis has a tap root system, so the biggest roots hit the bottom of the pot first

also check out pic #18, you can see that the bigger roots start out at the bottom and make their way toward the top of the plant

krok · Apr 8, 2011

A "spoiled" plant that always get a repot when roots hits bottom might have trouble for a period. Maybe you never waited long enough? I'm sure I've seen big plants in small pots, and they were healthy.

I want to know more about this subject, as I've seen my plants droop when they are "rootbound" (not, but filled the pot). But they perk up again after a while. Might be strain-dependent?

Also, what about flowering. Two months in same pot...

Devildog93 · Apr 8, 2011

Yellowing CAN be a sign of overwatering. When factored in with the other overwatering symptoms, then yes. But I wouldn't consider the plant overwatered solely on yellowing without the other symptoms.

In my past experience, the easiest mistake for a new grower to make is overwatering (I fell for it back in the day, until I switched to hydro/rockwool tables). The symptoms can appear as underwatering, thus tricking newbs into adding more water. It's a cyclical problem that can quickly spiral out of control.

highonbud · Apr 9, 2011

It is the easiest mistake to make, and yes the symptoms are like underwatering but it is very simple to see that its overwatering

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