Overcrowded scrog 3 weeks into flower.

AndromedaM31 said:

I've got the same "plant pots" haha.
Is there drain holes in the pots? Maybe overfilled them?
If not that, then it must be a leak in the system somewhere

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I use (3) 5gal buckets in a row. Middle bucket is my res, end buckets are my net pot holders and planters. I had just a bit of water left in the middle res and have been trying a new technique of running a low level of fluid in system as its supposed to be better growth. So not much water in there. So it wasn't over full.

Had to leak or siphon out somehow. I have top feed lines, I was wondering if they were dribbling water back along the hose and dripping on the groud, but the water was gone and so I didn't get to see the leaking in action only the result.

Ill check tonight and see if I can't find it out. I hope its not my rubber gromets that I use to seal the pvc pipe that is connecting the buckets.

Defoliated half of my indica, we'll see which half produces better, there's some wire that bisects the scrog and I've defoliated up to that half point marker..


Whole grow..


Indica...


Zoomed in a bit, you can see the wire I'm talking about..




From the side, camera between the indica and sativa...

JSheeze said:

From the side, camera between the indica and sativa...
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Is that water on the leaves that I can see in the last pic?

budman111 said:

Is that water on the leaves that I can see in the last pic?

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Ya, it's part of my IPM. 2nd round. I sprayed the first time and some built up drops but the lights didn't burn the leaves and the plants did fine, so I did it again.

JSheeze said:

Ya, it's part of my IPM.

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What's that mean lol?

budman111 said:

What's that mean lol?

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Lol, IPM - Integrated Pest Management.

Its the 2nd round of my preventative miticide. I use cucumeris mites in flower and nematodes for the soil bugs, along with neem mixed into my grow medium.

Should I replace the 20w 6500k with 30w 3000k? I have them so it's not a cost...



510w of 3000k

or

(25w less)...
484w of (11%6500k/89%3000k)

or

https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/0103190143-jpg.4258978/
(70w less, ^^^ current configuration)...
440w of (32%6500k/68%3000k)

*******
19 bulb fixture.

6500k are 20w
3000k are 30w

Overall power or diverse spectrum?

Day 21

Switched out all 20w 6500°k for 30w 3000°k...


Whole grow...


Sativa canopy...


Sativa side...


Indica canopy ...
(scrapping 50/50 de-fo test, wasn't set up right and not worth the effort for ambiguous results)


Indica side...


Sativa shot...
(Velvet Bud)


Indica shot...
(Strawberry Banana)

Hi, im back. I created this thread, plants have come a long way since this thread. 6 weeks since flip.

goatlicker said:

Alright, so i went ahead and pruned a fair few leaves off... basically topish ones blocking the light to the bottom and overcrowding area's.
I feel like I've trimmed so much, pretty much a half plastic shopping bag full.
I hope they don't hermie or anything now
There's still a lot that could be trimmed up so that the light reaches everything but that'll take away most of the leaves on the plant.. which i don't think would be ideal?
It's definitely made a wee bit of light get to the lower plants now though.
Pictures anyhow..

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goatlicker said:

Hi, im back. I created this thread, plants have come a long way since this thread. 6 weeks since flip.

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Looking nice, didn't mean to step on your toes..

Did you say what strain they were? Looks like no hermies, good work.

JSheeze said:

Looking nice, didn't mean to step on your toes..

Did you say what strain they were? Looks like no hermies, good work.

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Na is absolutely fine, I don't mind.
From left Dinafem remo chemo, Amherst sour diesel, humboltd purple trainwreck.

Yeah, I was stressing thinking I was going to get them but nope! They are and were all good with the trim.

Wee bit of heat stress going on I think? But other than that, looks good so far.

goatlicker said:

Na is absolutely fine, I don't mind.
From left Dinafem remo chemo, Amherst sour diesel, humboltd purple trainwreck.

Yeah, I was stressing thinking I was going to get them but nope! They are and were all good with the trim.

Wee bit of heat stress going on I think? But other than that, looks good so far.

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What indicators point you to that (just trying to learn)? What temps you running? If mine look that good I'll be happy

JSheeze said:

What indicators point you to that (just trying to learn)? What temps you running? If mine look that good I'll be happy

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Curled up leaves like canoeing and bit of brown on the very edges of the leaves. It's only the ones closest to the light though so assume it was that.
They're all good now as i raised the light a little but they ain't going back to normal.
Anywhere from 70-86 depending on the temps outside
And 60-70 lights off.

Day 28 (I'm not the OP, but suffered from an over-crowded SCROG as well and would like to get insight and/or advice on how to further manage the grow)

Whole grow...


Sativa canopy...


Sativa side...


Indica canopy ...


Indica side...


Sativa shot...
(Velvet Bud)


Indica shot...
(Strawberry Banana)

Day 35
(I'm not the OP, but suffered from an over-crowded SCROG as well and would like to get insight and/or advice on how to further manage the grow)

Whole grow...


Sativa canopy...


Sativa side...


Indica canopy (Do I have a K deficiency?) ...


Indica side...


Sativa shot...
(Velvet Bud)


Indica shot...
(Strawberry Banana)


Possible K lockout???...


(Tap water = 265ppm)
Fill up 5gal bucket with tap water, add 1 serving from small end of scoop (I think tsp) "Maxibloom," add 6ml liquid KoolBloom, add 1ml Floralicious+, add Southern Ag D747.

^^^ Total of 565ppm
^^^ pH of 5.95

@goatlicker Did you finish your run?

JSheeze said:

@goatlicker Did you finish your run?

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One plants pretty much ready and the other two have a week or so left.
I'll throw some pictures up later when lights are on.
Wee bit of foxtailing on one strain which is a bit odd but it's not major.

JSheeze said:

@goatlicker Did you finish your run?

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So ones almost ready but i kinda just have to let her be till the other two are ready... cause i can't dry anywhere else apart from the grow room.
Few issues with heat and wee bit oh phos deficiency i think.

goatlicker said:

So ones almost ready but i kinda just have to let her be till the other two are ready... cause i can't dry anywhere else apart from the grow room.
Few issues with heat and wee bit oh phos deficiency i think.

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Nice, that 3rd pic you can really see the tric's! Looks good.

Did they change color during your flush or did you do temp swings? Or are they just genetically that way?

Day 42
(I'm not the OP, but suffered from an over-crowded SCROG as well and would like to get insight and/or advice on how to further manage the grow)

Whole grow...


Sativa canopy...


Sativa side...


Indica canopy ...


Indica side...


Sativa shot...
(Velvet Bud)


Indica shot...
(Strawberry Banana)


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@ANC , @budman111 would you guys touch it any more? Should I pick any? Seems like I could thin it out inbetween branches but maybe I shouldn't?