outdoor 09 help...

my area is secure and as for planes and heli's we don't have them flying over looking for grows... and as far as water goes i'll just lug water from a near by pond, it's only a 5 min walk each way.. something to kill the day.. i only have 4L bottles so i'll load up the napsack with them and fill them up the bring them back.. personally i don't think i need to add perlite to the soil because the soil is always a little moist and never dries up... i will be putting rocks and leaves (mulch) around the plant to retain water... i will be using 1 or 2 cup/s of lime per hole.. i'll bring a bag of that to the side along with 2 or 3 bags of top soil or some other type of bought soil to mix with the native soil... i think i will dig the holes deeper.. and i will try and use some regular water mix nutes.. i will just mix with the water i get from the pond and measure it for a 4L jug and water each plant with 2L or more every time i visit.. which may be every weekend.. i only plan on planting 16-18 clones because if i get a pound per plant that would do me and 2 of my friends who smoke for a while... also that my help because i would be able to get some extra money to better grow nextyears crop and have more well take care of areas to plant in... also i don't think that the plastic over the top would be doable because it would be hard to put plastic up in a clearing.. but i may try to think up and idea of how to... i was just wondering though.. would it be better to have seta of 3 plants every 5ft away from eachother.. or to have all of them together in a 15x15ft area.. or to have a plant every 10-20 ft away from eachother?

Well the more room you give your plants to grow, more likely your able to obtain your one pound per plant. Do you know what kind of clones you are using? Using water from a pond is not that ideal.. but if thats what you have accessible then by all means use it. Make sure to ph it when you give them straight water, and when you give them nutrients PH test after you add. I use bottled nutes as well. As for your plastic dilemma. If you want it done, it is possible. Don't be lazy your yield will show for it. I made 6 giant 10 foot poles and buried them 3 feet down. I left three poles on one side slightly higher so i can have some water run off to the bottom. To ensure no leaks. I made smaller logs into runners outlining the shape, and placing them accordingly to have a solid structure. Then my buddy gave me a 5 foot(width) clear poly and ran lengths of poly over the entire structure going from the higher end to the bottom. Tapping them as I moved along with red tuct tape. This shit is so adhesive, I don't recommend getting it stuck on your skin. to attach the poly to the logs i used a staple gun.. to "tach" the poly to the log I stapled it a few times in the same area so it would not rip when I pulled it tight. Pull it tight and staple accordingly to where you see a potential lake looking to form on your newly developed roof Make sure she is solid as you do not want a collapse on your girls ! Yes it sounds like a bit of work. But by the sounds of it, you have more then one buddy helping you. So this should not be a problem. If you are confident with your spot then I would suggest of doing a one plot. Easier to water and look after. If you need to roof it , its easier then roofing 3 to 4 different spots. My spot is also is a clearing but it is perfectly positioned close to a running stream with a natural Ph of 6.8. It is close to the tree line so planes are unable to see. Yet the spot is still able to retain lots of glorious sunlight. When do you plan on getting your clones? Or do you already have a mother ? Im going to stick a 4 foot mother plant outside when I put all my other plants outside. To see how big she can get lol. If you put your plants 2 feet tall and bushy. You will have an easier time in achieving your POUND per plant goal.

Take it easy bro, LeMskunK

i have a mother already... it's bag seed but it's an awesome type.. it has crystals on the leaves and it is only in veg.. it also reeks of a skunky smell... i will be cutting my clones 3 weeks before i plan to bring them to the site.. i clone with water and an airpump so it takes longer.. i will bring 18 clones to the area.. i will plant them about 4ft away from eachother and i will try to see if i can get some clear plastic to build a canopy over them.. my plan was to have 4-6ft tall plants that are bushy.. i am growing an indica dominant plant .. and i will be topping maybe 3 time for the season.. this will be topping every top..

sweet well i would suggest (if you have the room) to veg your plants that you plan to put outside for 1 month before putting them outside. You will have no problem achieving your 7 foot tall plants. Im taking one of my Lemon skunk mothers thats like 3 and half feet tall right now.. and I am throwing it outside with the rest of my crop. Im trying for a 10 foot tall plant . When you put out your young girls, grab some coyote piss. This will keep any unwanted pests away from your plants. There is nothing worse to coming back to half eaten plants Coyote piss can be found at any gardening store, for as little as 10 dollars. Yeah both strains I am using this year are both indica dominant as well. I used a mostly sativa strain last year and was not too impressed.

May I suggest taking more clones. Because if you want 18 plants at the end of the year chances are you may lose a few. I want 40 solid lemonskunk plants. So that is why I am choosing to clone 60. If a few are a bit behind the others.. you don't really care. Hope everything goes well bro. Looking forward to seeing some outdoor bud action. I will keep you posted on mine as well

awesome thanks you've been a great help..

just for curiousity sake i was just wondering what would the bare cryteria be to get a pound a plant with genetics aside.. say we were to grow bagseed outdoor in my climate what would i need and how much of it to get a pound per plant??? height ,width ,soill addiments ,nutes , watering, temps, ect...

1 pound per plant is easily achievable with a 6 month+ growing season and patience

aprox how tall would they have to be?

ive seen plants under 4 feet tall with probably more than a pound on them.

If you put them all outside around 3 feet tall in the spring. You could achieve a pound per plant easily, you are just extending your outdoor grow season by starting them indoor.


I use pro mix, mushroom manure, chicken manure, worm castings, sea sand, bat guano when the plants let me know they need some food I give them nutes via watering. I might be doing two plots of 20 using a hydroponic hoses and a battery timer. As well the forty in the bed. Your question is kind of broad. Give them great soil, regular feeding schedule (not too much) Lots of sunlight. Depends on the kind of grower you are as well. I can not tell you how to achieve a pound per plant but I can sure tell you where to start.... SOIL. Make sure your plot is on a south facing slope. Go there through out the day when you plan to plant. Look for trees bushes that could rob your ladies of sunlight. Trim back all folliage so your babes can retain most sunlight.


Your climate does not sound the greatest. My spot roughly stays around 25, 26 degrees all summer occassionally getting higher. Temp has alot to do with marijuana growth, because if the temp drops or gets too high the growth will substantially slow down and essentially giving you smaller, less yielding plants. If it gets too cold GREENHOUSE it and try to keep the temps up.

well i'm going out next week to get the south side of the hill and to cut down the small trees that are in the way of the plot.. and i will climb the other bigger trees and cut off all the larger branches that block out the light... the 3ft tall idea isn't doable for me because i am not using my vehicle for any of this.. if i get cought it's only me that they can get that way... i also am using a backpack and a small box to transport the clones in.. i will buy a few bags of store bought soil to add to the soil which i will be planting in also i will add some lime... the plant that i will be taking cuttings from grows great.. it's nice and green and it's really bushy when i topped it only once... i will let half of them grow without a height restriction.. and the other half grow to about 6-7ft i will top both plants to get them bushy but i'll let one half grow crazy.. the clones that i will be putting out will be about 4 inches tall.. and when i get them rooted i will put them into small cups and let them grow inside for about a week to get a strong hold on the soil in the cup.. i will be leaving them in a small greenhouse that will be about 2x2x1 (LxWxH) outside for another week to get used to the enviornment and then i will take them out and plant them into the ground..

Well since you can not get them all out at a certain height. The greenhouse idea is a great idea. I do the same with boxing the plants up to the spot. I rode a dirtbike on the back with no hands holding on to 35 clones at a time LOL yeah it was sketchy but it worked. And best of all we are still undetected. I would suggest using Coyote piss as soon as you put them outside. They are very young and very "sweet" smelling to any unwanted pest. Even in a greenhouse still spread the coyote piss in a couple of old socks around the perimeter. This will detour any unwanted pests from ravaging your garden. Earlier you get set up, less rushing around you have to do when its almost time to plant. There is still too much snow on the ground for me to check out my outdoor spot. I wish I could go prep mine Sounds like you have the right idea. Looking forward to seeing you obtain that pound per plant goal

yeah i'm looking forward to seeing the pound per plant too thanks for the advice.. i've already checked here though and i can't obtain coyote piss anywhere.. so i'm guessing that's out of the question

really? You live in Canada right. Go to TripleTree. Or any gardening store. It works the best, but I am sure other stuff will work. Just finished potting some clones from my big mom so they can be moms for my outdoor crop. getting started

awesome keep me updated with your outdoor this year.. i'll do the same