Organic Grow with the Speed and Yield of a Synthetic Hydroponics Grow

I believe the right methods implemented with an organic grow could allow it to compete with a synthetic hydroponics grow.

What gives organic grows an advantage:

- Cheap setup cost
- Healthier
- Less maintenance
- More forgiving of errors
- Lower running cost
- Product that tastes and smokes better

What methods could at least make a large organic grow competitive with a commercial grow?

Benefits of the methods must out weight the time/effort it takes to implement them.

So far I have thought of:

- CO2
- Foliar spray feeding
- Automatic watering systems
- Safe Additives such as kelp and plant hormones

What else could be used to increase speed and yield?

This includes methods that aren't just exclusive to organic grows.

Also, impact to the environment is not a factor in this discussion.

No soil grow is gonna compete with a hydro set up ?? Not with same set up and inviroment imo the smoke might be better but that a long running argument that is nt imo worth getting into!!

I have lurked the popular grow forums and not found a good thread on this topic.

The threads I found deteriorated into a pissing match between liberal hippies and right wing conservatives. The outcome was people on both sides were fucking morons.

In answer to your question of "what methods" In my opinion it would have to be alot more room and a large outdoor crop. In a square foot comparison growing in simulated conditions, You will never get close to hydro. You need big pots which take up room that you dont need hydroponically and no matter how much cow shit or fish guts you have, plants will grow quicker when they get directly injected with the exact solution they need and with no resistance imposed on the roots having to push through a medium.

So from a financial stand point, Factoring in grow time, space and running costs, too grow commercial amounts your gonna have to go outside (IMO) to compete with the hydro boys

o0adam0o said:

In answer to your question of "what methods" In my opinion it would have to be alot more room and a large outdoor crop. In a square foot comparison growing in simulated conditions, You will never get close to hydro. You need big pots which take up room that you dont need hydroponically and no matter how much cow shit or fish guts you have, plants will grow quicker when they get directly injected with the exact solution they need and with no resistance imposed on the roots having to push through a medium.

So from a financial stand point, Factoring in grow time, space and running costs, too grow commercial amounts your gonna have to go outside (IMO) to compete with the hydro boys

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Yes I would agree bigger pots = bigger plants.

But in terms of nutrients, there are a lot of organic guano's and plant hormones that achieve the same results as synthetics with less effort and cost. Although it's harder than just going to the hydro shop and blowing a load on advanced nutrients.

I do agree with this statement. Nitrogen is N. Whether N comes from a manufactured chemical or naturally occuring cow shit, N is N. Im not a hydro man myself, but there is no resistance for the roots to grow. You say bigger pots = bigger plants but that is because bigger/healthy root system=bigger healthier plants. Logistically, I just dont think you can match it. Dont get me wrong. I love my soil perlite mix. And thats another thing. Adding perlite to your mix will give roots more oxygen and less resistance and bring you closer to competing with hydro.

use coco as ur medium its basically hydro but not lol

o0adam0o said:

I do agree with this statement. Nitrogen is N. Whether N comes from a manufactured chemical or naturally occuring cow shit, N is N. Im not a hydro man myself, but there is no resistance for the roots to grow. You say bigger pots = bigger plants but that is because bigger/healthy root system=bigger healthier plants. Logistically, I just dont think you can match it. Dont get me wrong. I love my soil perlite mix. And thats another thing. Adding perlite to your mix will give roots more oxygen and less resistance and bring you closer to competing with hydro.

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I would say the footprint of the pot is dwarfed by the size of the plant. So soil or hydro, the plant is going to take up space. And yes, perlite is pretty much a given for soil growing.