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Backyard dirt

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Going small in southern Oregon. I sat out last year after pulling in too much for my needs 2 years ago. I don't want to repeat that so I planted this Sherbert clone on June 12. I'm hoping this will stay under 4 feet with supercropping and stay manageable. This stuff is just too fun to sit out 2 straight years.
 

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Humanrob

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Going small in southern Oregon. I sat out last year after pulling in too much for my needs 2 years ago. I don't want to repeat that so I planted this Sherbert clone on June 12. I'm hoping this will stay under 4 feet with supercropping and stay manageable. This stuff is just too fun to sit out 2 straight years.
I look forward to seeing how the supercropping goes. I thought about mainlining mine... but I'm trying to go for a low maintenance grow this year, so I'll abuse them in less time consuming ways. ;)

I've got a pair of J1 photos I'm going to keep small (the only non-autos I have going this summer). I got the clones on the 8th when it was still cool and rainy, and since they were outside when I picked them up I didn't think much about hardening them. Two days later the sun came out all day, the high that day was only 70º so I didn't think twice about them... but they got pretty badly burned.

They've been recovering under some burlap in an area that only gets partial sun, but I'm pretty sure the late start and the burning will stunt them. I'll also keep them in smaller pots, possibly only 10 gallons to keep them smaller and allow me to finish them indoors if that seems like a good idea at the time.

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Backyard dirt

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I look forward to seeing how the supercropping goes. I thought about mainlining mine... but I'm trying to go for a low maintenance grow this year, so I'll abuse them in less time consuming ways. ;)

I've got a pair of J1 photos I'm going to keep small (the only non-autos I have going this summer). I got the clones on the 8th when it was still cool and rainy, and since they were outside when I picked them up I didn't think much about hardening them. Two days later the sun came out all day, the high that day was only 70º so I didn't think twice about them... but they got pretty badly burned.

They've been recovering under some burlap in an area that only gets partial sun, but I'm pretty sure the late start and the burning will stunt them. I'll also keep them in smaller pots, possibly only 10 gallons to keep them smaller and allow me to finish them indoors if that seems like a good idea at the time.

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I put my clone out the day after I bought it and the temperature neared 90 that day. I was prepared to shade it but there was no wilt and no harm. I also have a couple of late started skunk #1s (regular, as a promo) and they are a few inches high but whether they are female or male will be the question. It looks like summer is here and nightime lows will stay above 50-55 so we are in business.
 

Dmannn

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I have found removing those lower leaves keeps the plant more vertical vigorous and keeps the pests away. I guess everyone has their methods.
 

Humanrob

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Starting to get the girls supported for the season...View attachment 4157194
Do you use the same material on the walls as the roof? It could just be the lighting the photo was taken under, but the walls look like they would filter a lot of light out. When I did my first hoop-house covers and I was looking into using "clear" plastic from Home Depot, I'm not sure about the accuracy but I was told that the 6mil clear plastic sheets cut about 20% of the light, and that even plastic that is designed for greenhouses will cut about that much.

What you have been doing (from what I've seen on here) has produced fantastic results, so I don't doubt it's working, I'm just wondering about your strategy. I also read an article (I believe that was based on some study) that claimed that diffuse lighting works better than single point lighting, even when we're talking about the sun... that was an interesting idea.

These points are probably more relevant for people like myself, whose grow area only gets about 6-8 hours of direct sunlight per day. If your greenhouse is in the middle of an open space and gets the full day's sun, it might not be a big deal to filter a bunch out.
 

slow drawl

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I tend to keep my uprights vertical, do you find sinking bamboo at that angle works better?
If these plants turn out like previous ones here you won't be able to see the bamboo come harvest.
Seems like I'm always changing up my support systems, got a couple threads buried here somewhere that show different things I've done from seasons past.
 

slow drawl

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Do you use the same material on the walls as the roof? It could just be the lighting the photo was taken under, but the walls look like they would filter a lot of light out. When I did my first hoop-house covers and I was looking into using "clear" plastic from Home Depot, I'm not sure about the accuracy but I was told that the 6mil clear plastic sheets cut about 20% of the light, and that even plastic that is designed for greenhouses will cut about that much.

What you have been doing (from what I've seen on here) has produced fantastic results, so I don't doubt it's working, I'm just wondering about your strategy. I also read an article (I believe that was based on some study) that claimed that diffuse lighting works better than single point lighting, even when we're talking about the sun... that was an interesting idea.

These points are probably more relevant for people like myself, whose grow area only gets about 6-8 hours of direct sunlight per day. If your greenhouse is in the middle of an open space and gets the full day's sun, it might not be a big deal to filter a bunch out.
The roof and walls are SolarSoft 80 8mm double wall polycarbonate. Diffused light is the shit, you need a pair of sunglasses on a cloudy day in there. It gets so intense on sunny hot days I have to pull my 50% alumanet down just to maintain -100 temps. Love my swamp cooler, couldn't grow without it. My GH position is not optimal, built against my house facing the West. The Panda film is on the North wall for reflection, I get about 8 hrs of direct light.
 

slow drawl

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The roof and walls are SolarSoft 80 8mm double wall polycarbonate. Diffused light is the shit, you need a pair of sunglasses on a cloudy day in there. It gets so intense on sunny hot days I have to pull my 50% alumanet down just to maintain -100 temps. Love my swamp cooler, couldn't grow without it. My GH position is not optimal, built against my house facing the West. The Panda film is on the North wall for reflection, I get about 8 hrs of direct light.
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Backyard dirt

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Interesting discussion about direct and indirect light. I have been thinking that here in the clear (summer) west we have the advantage of pure sun, unhindered by clouds, as opposed to back east where some days are cloudy or mostly cloudy.
 

SchmoeJoe

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Do you use the same material on the walls as the roof? It could just be the lighting the photo was taken under, but the walls look like they would filter a lot of light out. When I did my first hoop-house covers and I was looking into using "clear" plastic from Home Depot, I'm not sure about the accuracy but I was told that the 6mil clear plastic sheets cut about 20% of the light, and that even plastic that is designed for greenhouses will cut about that much.

What you have been doing (from what I've seen on here) has produced fantastic results, so I don't doubt it's working, I'm just wondering about your strategy. I also read an article (I believe that was based on some study) that claimed that diffuse lighting works better than single point lighting, even when we're talking about the sun... that was an interesting idea.

These points are probably more relevant for people like myself, whose grow area only gets about 6-8 hours of direct sunlight per day. If your greenhouse is in the middle of an open space and gets the full day's sun, it might not be a big deal to filter a bunch out.

Diffusing the sunlight makes for more even coverage in the greenhouse which makes for more even growth. During peak season the sun is so intense that you're not losing enough light to be an issue and it helps keep the greenhouse cooler which actually improves growth rate and quality.

Having the reflective material on the north wall is really important. I've even put corrugated aluminum siding down on the ground propped up behind the north side of big outdoor and greenhouse plants . They'll have big holes on that side where they don't get any sun and then after a couple of weeks with reflective material on that side they fill in to the point that you can't really tell the difference
 
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