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schuylaar

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'..is the name of my new grassroots group' says Hillary Clinton just now on MSNBC Chris Hayes Show.

'I'm in'! she exclaimed while shamelessly plugging her book.

Q: Did she just announce for 2020?:shock: or am i just really stoned?
 
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I checked the news looking for Clinton's announcement and found only this:

Ghostly graveyard of 60 perfectly preserved ancient shipwrecks is found by climate scientists at the bottom of the Black Sea
  • The Black Sea Maritime Archaeology Project has been scouring the sea bed of the Black Sea
  • The primary focus is to carry out geophysical surveys, but 60 ancient shipwrecks have also been found
  • Galleys hail from the Roman, Byzantine and Ottoman empires, with some ships dating back 2,500 years
  • They are almost perfectly preserved due to the lack of oxygen in the Black Sea's 'dead zone'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...eserved-ancient-shipwrecks.html#ixzz4tk8OrJOq
 
schuylaar said:
'..is the name of my new grassroots group' says Hillary Clinton just now on MSNBC Chris Hayes Show.

'I'm in'! she exclaimed while shamelessly plugging her book.

Q: Did she just announce for 2020?:shock: or am i just really stoned?
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She's not going to run. But even if she did... Why would Bernie be able to run again but not her? Considering how badly she wrecked him at the polls.
 
srh88 said:
She's not going to run. But even if she did... Why would Bernie be able to run again but not her? Considering how badly she wrecked him at the polls.
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good point, hillary did destroy bernie.

and she didn't even have to talk about how he voted to dump toxic waste in hispanic neighborhoods, or assist his wife in committing bank fraud, his gang-rape fantasy prose, or anything else.
 
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Great article. That sums it up perfectly, and offers some good solutions to the problem. I really like the idea of paying elected officials more money in order to reduce the financial incentives from big donors.
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I agree, although I wish we'd pay them a low multiple of the median wage. That would be incentive to help the average American as opposed to the elites.
 
Fogdog said:
I checked the news looking for Clinton's announcement and found only this:

Ghostly graveyard of 60 perfectly preserved ancient shipwrecks is found by climate scientists at the bottom of the Black Sea
  • The Black Sea Maritime Archaeology Project has been scouring the sea bed of the Black Sea
  • The primary focus is to carry out geophysical surveys, but 60 ancient shipwrecks have also been found
  • Galleys hail from the Roman, Byzantine and Ottoman empires, with some ships dating back 2,500 years
  • They are almost perfectly preserved due to the lack of oxygen in the Black Sea's 'dead zone'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...eserved-ancient-shipwrecks.html#ixzz4tk8OrJOq
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i just went to her page and found her new 'group'..guess she doesn't want to use the word 'campaign'- it''s too soon..wound still deep.

betchya bernies going to be pissed, she using his colors.. literally has no fucking scruples.

https://www.onwardtogether.org/

i'm going to say she's running.

she is going to shove herself down our throats no matter what..
 
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st0wandgrow said:
Great article. That sums it up perfectly, and offers some good solutions to the problem. I really like the idea of paying elected officials more money in order to reduce the financial incentives from big donors.
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Another way to make sure the children of public officials to ensure their children get good educations is to improve public school education and make college available to all at no cost.

On the same subject, I think taxpayers should NOT subsidize private schools. Instead, that money needs to be spent to make public schools better. For everyone.

This would directly address the education gap that leads to income and wealth good later in life.

It would also address disparities in minority education, because minorities are much more likely to live in areas with underfunded and substandard public schools.

We need to get serious about ending institutional racism and the current education system is a big part of it.
 
ttystikk said:
Another way to make sure the children of public officials to ensure their children get good educations is to improve public school education and make college available to all at no cost.

On the same subject, I think taxpayers should NOT subsidize private schools. Instead, that money needs to be spent to make public schools better. For everyone.

This would directly address the education gap that leads to income and wealth good later in life.

It would also address disparities in minority education, because minorities are much more likely to live in areas with underfunded and substandard public schools.

We need to get serious about ending institutional racism and the current education system is a big part of it.
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I'm totally on board with improving public schools, but I'm still not 100% sold on making college available to *all* at no cost. I support making it available to kids that apply themselves and earn good grades. I support making it available to kids that can't afford it. I do not support sending some kid to school on the taxpayers dime who isn't serious about it, has never applied himself/herself, and wants to go just to have the "college experience".

School is not for everyone imo, and having a blank check for something like this could end up being awfully wasteful.
 
st0wandgrow said:
I'm totally on board with improving public schools, but I'm still not 100% sold on making college available to *all* at no cost. I support making it available to kids that apply themselves and earn good grades. I support making it available to kids that can't afford it. I do not support sending some kid to school on the taxpayers dime who isn't serious about it, has never applied himself/herself, and wants to go just to have the "college experience".

School is not for everyone imo, and having a blank check for something like this could end up being awfully wasteful.
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I'm sure it would be like any other scholarship; you have to maintain a certain GPA to be viable. I wouldn't want to foot the bill for someone who receives poor grades or doesn't graduate, either
 
st0wandgrow said:
I'm totally on board with improving public schools, but I'm still not 100% sold on making college available to *all* at no cost. I support making it available to kids that apply themselves and earn good grades. I support making it available to kids that can't afford it. I do not support sending some kid to school on the taxpayers dime who isn't serious about it, has never applied himself/herself, and wants to go just to have the "college experience".

School is not for everyone imo, and having a blank check for something like this could end up being awfully wasteful.
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If you think the current system isn't wasteful, take a closer look. But all that money isn't going towards any education at all. 'wasting' it on students who 'aren't serious' would still be a huge step in the right direction.

I think holding student's admission accountable to their grades is fair.
 
ttystikk said:
If you think the current system isn't wasteful, take a closer look. But all that money isn't going towards any education at all. 'wasting' it on students who 'aren't serious' would still be a huge step in the right direction.

I think holding student's admission accountable to their grades is fair.
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I feel ya. I support the idea, I would just like to see some parameters in place to avoid a free for all. For example, I couldn't stomach the idea of someone like Steve Mnuchin taking advantage of the system to save a dime. If you have a net worth that exceeds the GDP of Mexico, you're on your own.
 
st0wandgrow said:
I feel ya. I support the idea, I would just like to see some parameters in place to avoid a free for all. For example, I couldn't stomach the idea of someone like Steve Mnuchin taking advantage of the system to save a dime. If you have a net worth that exceeds the GDP of Mexico, you're on your own.
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That's what taxes are for.
 
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